God Only Knows Instruments/Credits
Joshilyn Hoisington:
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There were absolutely NO overdubs on this magnificent recording, other than the vocals - however, the tag was spliced in from a separate take.
It always sounded like the french horn had to be overdubbed on that tag if there wasn't a 2nd horn present in the session, alternating playing the same line one after another. It actually sounds impossible to play without being overdubbed or a 2nd horn player present.
If you mean the melodic "withouuuut" part being played in rounds at the end - that's a horn and a woodwind (although the reverb does make it sound like two horns!). All the instruments are live without a single doubt
It's hard to hear on anything but Take 20 of the backing track on UM, but each alternating round does sit differently in that stereo mix...and on all mixes the "2nd" horn has more reverb.
If Brian can overdub the same harpsichord on "You Still Believe in Me", why not the same horn on this...
You're hearing several other instruments overlapping, but not a second horn.
You can literally hear one still playing the last note while the other horn starts. That isn't reverb either.
It literally can't be. It is not physically or metaphysically possible.
terrei:
Quote from: thebaron on August 14, 2021, 03:45:47 PM
You can literally hear one still playing the last note while the other horn starts. That isn't reverb either.
Sounds like the French horn is playing the call and response to a line played on strings and clarinet.
Joshilyn Hoisington:
Quote from: terrei on August 16, 2021, 05:37:34 AM
Quote from: thebaron on August 14, 2021, 03:45:47 PM
You can literally hear one still playing the last note while the other horn starts. That isn't reverb either.
Sounds like the French horn is playing the call and response to a line played on strings and clarinet.
It's alto flutes.
Greg Parry:
Yes, definitely a flute, or flutes.
I have some discreet tracks from GOK which I pulled from the 5.1 mix and subjected to further treatment.
The first clearly demonstrates it is a flute on the fade playing in round with the French horn
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AtR_5dVRo40RgYFBrjMY0F-mI13ebw
The second is what I presume is the solo bass track from the 4 track tape. Interestingly enough, some of the other instruments WITHOUT REVERB are also on this track, so you get to hear what the musicians would have heard in the room, without any effects. I have low cut the bass and boosted the track so you can hear it more clearly. The most enlightening is the woodwind flourish on the final verse which can be heard dry. There is another lower part which can't really be heard in the finished track.
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AtR_5dVRo40RgYFCwDY5Ey59gm3xKg
The third is the same bass track but from earlier in the session where the staccato idea is suggested. Again this is completely dry
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AtR_5dVRo40RgYFDCBN008-u8ZTKhA
Joshilyn Hoisington:
Quote from: Greg Parry on August 16, 2021, 08:35:25 AM
Yes, definitely a flute, or flutes.
I have some discreet tracks from GOK which I pulled from the 5.1 mix and subjected to further treatment.
The first clearly demonstrates it is a flute on the fade playing in round with the French horn
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AtR_5dVRo40RgYFBrjMY0F-mI13ebw
The second is what I presume is the solo bass track from the 4 track tape. Interestingly enough, some of the other instruments WITHOUT REVERB are also on this track, so you get to hear what the musicians would have heard in the room, without any effects. I have low cut the bass and boosted the track so you can hear it more clearly. The most enlightening is the woodwind flourish on the final verse which can be heard dry. There is another lower part which can't really be heard in the finished track.
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AtR_5dVRo40RgYFCwDY5Ey59gm3xKg
The third is the same bass track but from earlier in the session where the staccato idea is suggested. Again this is completely dry
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AtR_5dVRo40RgYFDCBN008-u8ZTKhA
Those 5.1 stems have always been very useful -- and yes, earlier in the thread we discuss a little bit the oddness of giving the bass its own track, while it's not exactly quiet on the the rhythm track either. It is great to hear Jay's Clarinet so clearly on the flourish! And hearing everything dry is such a great indicator of how much magic goes into producing a track.
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