"Love to Say Dada" or "All Day" the missing "Air" section? of "The Elements?"

[Phoenix]

Seriously though, if you mentioned SMiLE then said to someone about a track "[It] was going to be four songs—in four short pieces—combined together, but we never finished that one." - that's screaming out as a description of what we do know about the Elements is it not?

...the 'Barnyard Suite' - which is referenced just the once, in the Priess book: "[It] was going to be four songs—in four short pieces—combined together, but we never finished that one."

The Barnyard Suite (The Old Master Painter)* IS four sections, just as it said in the Preiss book.
1 "Barnyard"
2 "The Old Master Painter"
3 "You Were My Sunshine"
4 "the 'Barnshine Fade'"


How is this confusing?? 




* Note the scratched out parenthesis on the hand written list.

[Mujan, 8@$+@Rc| of a Blue Wizard]

Seriously though, if you mentioned SMiLE then said to someone about a track "[It] was going to be four songs—in four short pieces—combined together, but we never finished that one." - that's screaming out as a description of what we do know about the Elements is it not?

...the 'Barnyard Suite' - which is referenced just the once, in the Priess book: "[It] was going to be four songs—in four short pieces—combined together, but we never finished that one."

The Barnyard Suite (The Old Master Painter)* IS four sections, just as it said in the Preiss book.
1 "Barnyard"
2 "The Old Master Painter"
3 "You Were My Sunshine"
4 "the 'Barnshine Fade'"


How is this confusing?? 




* Note the scratched out parenthesis on the hand written list.

Omp is a song about God. You were my sunshine sung in the past tense right after singing about God creates a really profound yet subtle statement of losing faith in God entirely or at least in traditional religious beliefs/standards. Neither song was written by Brian and together, they're a really amazing experiment showing how his modular approach could also be used to meld two unrelated old songs together into something completely new and with a meaning unique to him. Barnshine is a fade. It's not necessary but whatever.

The problem I have with this "Barnyard suite" is it takes something so understated and beautiful...And shoehorns in Barnyard which has nothing to do with it and even dilutes the meaning by being a part of it. Even ignoring the loss of faith idea, what does a barnyard have to do with God or Love? It's just a very forced connection, which is a problem I have with this as well as IIGS/IWBA/Workshop. I think at the end of the day, they're all just pieces (those being GS/BY/IWBA/Workshop) that were recorded for whatever but don't really fit anywhere. If all four were together as IIGS the track, maybe that's possible but it'd definitely be the worst track on the album by far.

[Phoenix]

Omp is a song about God. You were my sunshine sung in the past tense right after singing about God creates a really profound yet subtle statement of losing faith in God entirely or at least in traditional religious beliefs/standards. Neither song was written by Brian and together, they're a really amazing experiment showing how his modular approach could also be used to meld to unrelated old songs together into something completely new and with a meaning unique to him. Barnshine is a fade. It's not necessary but whatever.

The problem I have with this "Barnyard suite" is it takes something so understated and beautiful...And shoehorns in Barnyard which has nothing to do with it and even dilutes the meaning by being a part of it. Even ignoring the loss of faith idea, what does a barnyard have to do with God or Love? It's just a very forced connection, which is a problem I have with this as well as IIGS/IWBA/Workshop. I think at the end of the day, they're all just pieces (those being GS/BY/IWBA/Workshop) that were recorded for whatever but don't really fit anywhere. If all four were together as IIGS the track, maybe that's possible but it'd definitely be the worst track on the album by far.

You honestly don't see it possibly that a farmer character could be the one the one singing TOMP? The song is more about What the painter painted than Who the painter was, especially in the truncated form Brian used.  It's not as likely some city boy would be singing about the violets, daffodils, twilight haze, rainbows, and summer skies. Now with that in mind, the next two sections are easily just as home on the farm (as opposed to the range ). Sunshine, loneliness, etc.

We know "Barnyard" (the section) was part of HV. As discussed, he decides to make the single more commercial and excises it, along with IIGS.  Somewhere along the way he decides to make them into their own separate tracks (as evidenced on the tracklist).  Knowing they're too short to be songs by themselves, he packages them up with covers, and jokes. For whatever reason, he figures IIGS works as a title for that specific collection, maybe because the guy starts the song in great shape and the girl WILL be in great shape by the time its over. Hee refers to the other batch as "the Barnyard suite" but possibly like you, he doesn't think that's the best name for those four bits, and goes with "TOMP" (with or without parenthesis).

[Mujan, 8@$+@Rc| of a Blue Wizard]

Omp is a song about God. You were my sunshine sung in the past tense right after singing about God creates a really profound yet subtle statement of losing faith in God entirely or at least in traditional religious beliefs/standards. Neither song was written by Brian and together, they're a really amazing experiment showing how his modular approach could also be used to meld to unrelated old songs together into something completely new and with a meaning unique to him. Barnshine is a fade. It's not necessary but whatever.

The problem I have with this "Barnyard suite" is it takes something so understated and beautiful...And shoehorns in Barnyard which has nothing to do with it and even dilutes the meaning by being a part of it. Even ignoring the loss of faith idea, what does a barnyard have to do with God or Love? It's just a very forced connection, which is a problem I have with this as well as IIGS/IWBA/Workshop. I think at the end of the day, they're all just pieces (those being GS/BY/IWBA/Workshop) that were recorded for whatever but don't really fit anywhere. If all four were together as IIGS the track, maybe that's possible but it'd definitely be the worst track on the album by far.

You honestly don't see it possibly that a farmer character could be the one the one singing TOMP? The song is more about What the painter painted than Who the painter was, especially in the truncated form Brian used.  It's not as likely some city boy would be singing about the violets, daffodils, twilight haze, rainbows, and summer skies. Now with that in mind, the next two sections are easily just as home on the farm (as opposed to the range ). Sunshine, loneliness, etc.

We know "Barnyard" (the section) was part of HV. As discussed, he decides to make the single more commercial and excises it, along with IIGS.  Somewhere along the way he decides to make them into their own separate tracks (as evidenced on the tracklist).  Knowing they're too short to be songs by themselves, he packages them up with covers, and jokes. For whatever reason, he figures IIGS works as a title for that specific collection, maybe because the guy starts the song in great shape and the girl WILL be in great shape by the time its over. Hee refers to the other batch as "the Barnyard suite" but possibly like you, he doesn't think that's the best name for those four bits, and goes with "TOMP" (with or without parenthesis).

I don't know. I think it's far more likely OMP was it's own thing and any "barnyard suite" would just be IIGS. Gs/Iwba/WS/Barnyard. Something like that. A collection of outtakes into a...semi related...collection. But I still think forcing Barnyard before OMP dilutes the entire purpose and power of that track and I don't see enough evidence to justify doing so.

[zosobird]

Omp is a song about God. You were my sunshine sung in the past tense right after singing about God creates a really profound yet subtle statement of losing faith in God entirely or at least in traditional religious beliefs/standards. Neither song was written by Brian and together, they're a really amazing experiment showing how his modular approach could also be used to meld to unrelated old songs together into something completely new and with a meaning unique to him. Barnshine is a fade. It's not necessary but whatever.

The problem I have with this "Barnyard suite" is it takes something so understated and beautiful...And shoehorns in Barnyard which has nothing to do with it and even dilutes the meaning by being a part of it. Even ignoring the loss of faith idea, what does a barnyard have to do with God or Love? It's just a very forced connection, which is a problem I have with this as well as IIGS/IWBA/Workshop. I think at the end of the day, they're all just pieces (those being GS/BY/IWBA/Workshop) that were recorded for whatever but don't really fit anywhere. If all four were together as IIGS the track, maybe that's possible but it'd definitely be the worst track on the album by far.

You honestly don't see it possibly that a farmer character could be the one the one singing TOMP? The song is more about What the painter painted than Who the painter was, especially in the truncated form Brian used.  It's not as likely some city boy would be singing about the violets, daffodils, twilight haze, rainbows, and summer skies. Now with that in mind, the next two sections are easily just as home on the farm (as opposed to the range ). Sunshine, loneliness, etc.

We know "Barnyard" (the section) was part of HV. As discussed, he decides to make the single more commercial and excises it, along with IIGS.  Somewhere along the way he decides to make them into their own separate tracks (as evidenced on the tracklist).  Knowing they're too short to be songs by themselves, he packages them up with covers, and jokes. For whatever reason, he figures IIGS works as a title for that specific collection, maybe because the guy starts the song in great shape and the girl WILL be in great shape by the time its over. Hee refers to the other batch as "the Barnyard suite" but possibly like you, he doesn't think that's the best name for those four bits, and goes with "TOMP" (with or without parenthesis).

I don't know. I think it's far more likely OMP was it's own thing and any "barnyard suite" would just be IIGS. Gs/Iwba/WS/Barnyard. Something like that. A collection of outtakes into a...semi related...collection. But I still think forcing Barnyard before OMP dilutes the entire purpose and power of that track and I don't see enough evidence to justify doing so.

Mujan, a barnyard/OMP connection is completely reasonable. lol, what do you mean theres not enough evidence??

VOSSE "One night we were over at his house and he started playing You Are My Sunshine slowly, almost like an R&B thing, just slowing down the tempo, really mournful. And we were all a little high, I guess, and he started singing "you were my sunshine": he put the song in the past tense, and he was trying to find his bass rhythm for it, and in doing that he found this weird little riff that just sort of developed and it hit him, man, right then, that he wanted a barnyard, he wanted Old MacDonald's famr, he wanted all that stuff. So he immediately got Van Dyke over and they did a chart for "You Were My Sunshine". It's so hard to remember exactly what he wound up doing, because he changed things so much, but he wound up writing a clarinet part for it which is impossible to describe: a whole different sound that he found in the middle of all this, and it developed into an instrumental thing with barnyard sounds, people sawing (he had people in the studio sawing on wood) and Van Dyke being a duck - and it was marvelous. It made you smile and at the same time touched you."

also fwiw 2004 smile goes barnyard/omp

[Alex]

I pretty much thought the consensus was Vega-tables, Wind Chimes, Mrs. O'Leary, I Wanna Be Around, Love to Say Da Da.

[Phoenix]

Omp is a song about God. You were my sunshine sung in the past tense right after singing about God creates a really profound yet subtle statement of losing faith in God entirely or at least in traditional religious beliefs/standards. Neither song was written by Brian and together, they're a really amazing experiment showing how his modular approach could also be used to meld to unrelated old songs together into something completely new and with a meaning unique to him. Barnshine is a fade. It's not necessary but whatever.

The problem I have with this "Barnyard suite" is it takes something so understated and beautiful...And shoehorns in Barnyard which has nothing to do with it and even dilutes the meaning by being a part of it. Even ignoring the loss of faith idea, what does a barnyard have to do with God or Love? It's just a very forced connection, which is a problem I have with this as well as IIGS/IWBA/Workshop. I think at the end of the day, they're all just pieces (those being GS/BY/IWBA/Workshop) that were recorded for whatever but don't really fit anywhere. If all four were together as IIGS the track, maybe that's possible but it'd definitely be the worst track on the album by far.

You honestly don't see it possibly that a farmer character could be the one the one singing TOMP? The song is more about What the painter painted than Who the painter was, especially in the truncated form Brian used.  It's not as likely some city boy would be singing about the violets, daffodils, twilight haze, rainbows, and summer skies. Now with that in mind, the next two sections are easily just as home on the farm (as opposed to the range ). Sunshine, loneliness, etc.

We know "Barnyard" (the section) was part of HV. As discussed, he decides to make the single more commercial and excises it, along with IIGS.  Somewhere along the way he decides to make them into their own separate tracks (as evidenced on the tracklist).  Knowing they're too short to be songs by themselves, he packages them up with covers, and jokes. For whatever reason, he figures IIGS works as a title for that specific collection, maybe because the guy starts the song in great shape and the girl WILL be in great shape by the time its over. Hee refers to the other batch as "the Barnyard suite" but possibly like you, he doesn't think that's the best name for those four bits, and goes with "TOMP" (with or without parenthesis).

I don't know. I think it's far more likely OMP was it's own thing and any "barnyard suite" would just be IIGS. Gs/Iwba/WS/Barnyard. Something like that. A collection of outtakes into a...semi related...collection. But I still think forcing Barnyard before OMP dilutes the entire purpose and power of that track and I don't see enough evidence to justify doing so.

Mujan, a barnyard/OMP connection is completely reasonable. lol, what do you mean theres not enough evidence??

VOSSE "One night we were over at his house and he started playing You Are My Sunshine slowly, almost like an R&B thing, just slowing down the tempo, really mournful. And we were all a little high, I guess, and he started singing "you were my sunshine": he put the song in the past tense, and he was trying to find his bass rhythm for it, and in doing that he found this weird little riff that just sort of developed and it hit him, man, right then, that he wanted a barnyard, he wanted Old MacDonald's famr, he wanted all that stuff. So he immediately got Van Dyke over and they did a chart for "You Were My Sunshine". It's so hard to remember exactly what he wound up doing, because he changed things so much, but he wound up writing a clarinet part for it which is impossible to describe: a whole different sound that he found in the middle of all this, and it developed into an instrumental thing with barnyard sounds, people sawing (he had people in the studio sawing on wood) and Van Dyke being a duck - and it was marvelous. It made you smile and at the same time touched you."

also fwiw 2004 smile goes barnyard/omp

 

[zosobird]

i dont see how anyone could consider barnyard as an outtake! when brian has a chance to showcase smile to outsiders at least two times, he highlights the barnyard bit (humble harv and over the phone to another reporter). he seemed enthusiastic about that than almost anything else.. it has smile written all over it

back to the OP topic...

mujan, when asked about air, brian said there was a cut. a recorded piece of music! in fact a piano instrumental he did not finish. vosse's account highly suggests that this could very well have been the tag to wind chimes. how are you so absolutely sure the only thing he recorded for the elements was fire?

i believe wholeheartedly the ps chants were the elements in development. he wanted to lay ideas down (chants, falling into instruments, etc). he recorded them.  i agree the underwater chant was an embryonic approach to what eventually became the water chant. i believe though thats all he milked out of those chants. he tried the chants with the remaining elements (sans fire), felt water would work best as a chant, fire as what we know, tried the WC tag as wind, and VT as earth, but spun off WC and VT into their own songs instead (i agree they dont quite sound right in an elements track). But i believe he did in fact try out those ideas.. and trying out those ideas meant recording them. he never finished it, but i feel it is erroneous to say the only recorded attempt at the elements was fire

[zosobird]

double post

[Mujan, 8@$+@Rc| of a Blue Wizard]

i dont see how anyone could consider barnyard as an outtake! when brian has a chance to showcase smile to outsiders at least two times, he highlights the barnyard bit (humble harv and over the phone to another reporter). he seemed enthusiastic about that than almost anything else.. it has smile written all over it

back to the OP topic...

mujan, when asked about air, brian said there was a cut. a recorded piece of music! in fact a piano instrumental he did not finish. vosse's account highly suggests that this could very well have been the tag to wind chimes. how are you so absolutely sure the only thing he recorded for the elements was fire?

im believe wholeheartedly the ps chants were the elements in development. he wanted to lay ideas down (chants, falling into instruments, etc). he recorded them.  i agree the underwater chant was an embryonic approach to what eventually became the water chant. i believe though thats all he milked out of those chants. he tried the chants with the remaining elements (sans fire), felt water would work best as a chant, fire as what we know, tried the WC tag as wind, and VT as earth, but spun off WC and VT into their own songs instead (i agree they dont quite sound right in an elements track). But i believe he did in fact try out those ideas.. and trying out those ideas meant recording them. he never finished it, but i feel it is erroneous to say the only recorded attempt at the elements was fire

This probably isn't the best thread to go back into that. In any case, I've stated my conclusion and am done with it. I stated my conclusion and how I arrived at that as fully and clearly as possible so that I would not have to be dragged into this same annoying debate a million more times. If you havent read it, do so. If you have, thats where I stand and you bringing up the same irritating Vosse quotes--which Ive stated plain as day why I dont think outweigh the other, more compelling evidence--is NOT going to change my mind. So Id like to be able to discuss other things, like this with Barnyard/OMP, without you bringing that up yet again and diverting the topic. Thank you.

As for Barnyard. Ok...so "one night" presumably very early in the sessions Brian did it that way. Aren't you the very same person who was going on and on about "SMiLE was dynamic!" and aren't you repeating the same idea above? So why is it that magic excuse works only when you want it to and never at any other time? Isn't it just as conceivable Brian strung those pieces together on a whim one night but the idea changed drastically by November~December? I think so. Doesnt Vosse specifically say in that passage he doesnt even remember how it went? And that Sunshine came before Barnyard? I dont see OMP mentioned there either. So what, you wanna take what Brian had the wrecking crew perform in the studio (at a later date, when his mind was more made up) and ruin it by putting Sunshine first, then Barnyard, then...whatever...even tho it ruins the song's meaning, conflicts with what was ACTUALLY RECORDED (again, the physical evidence) just because its something Vosse recalls hearing at some unspecified time during the chaotic sessions? Like...do you seriously not realize how misguided and crazy that is?

Again, aesthetics opinion here, but I think Barnyard before OMP ruins the song. It's an unnecessary addition that takes away from the meaningful pairing of just those two old standards to create a unique new idea. What does a Brian and VDP original have to do with any of that? Nothing. It adds nothing to the song and youre only putting it there because of a vague recollection from one man who wasnt Brian. And doesn't Barnyard fade if I recall (could be wrong, haven't used it on a mix in years)?

Anyway, what's so inconceivable about it being part of IIGS?  They were both outtakes--yes, outtakes--from H&Vs. So right there, you've got a connection. The narrative forming in IIGS makes a lot more sense with that in Barnyard than barnyard does with OMP. And since Barnyard fades, it's a decent cap to either a verse/chorus/verse/chorus/bridge/fade construction of IIGS or a 4 part medley with, perhaps, IWBA and Workshop. Just seems to make sense to me, to hell with one single passage in a single article youre interpreting to suit your own needs.

I don't understand arguing against what sounds better (yes I know, it's subjective) and makes more thematic sense (again, OMP is stronger w/o Barnyard, IIGS is stronger with it) just because Vosse happened to mention Brian did it some other way ONE TIME AT AN UNKNOWN BUT PRESUMABLY EARLY POINT IN THE SESSIONS. Especially when we all know--you especially--how much things changed over time. Look, I enjoyed reading Vosse/Anderle too. They're great sources in terms of giving the basic overview of what happened, what it was like to be around Brian, the goals for the album. But I think using them as sources for sequencing or track structures is just really misguided. Especially when it's just speculation based on vague passages (Vosse mentioned WC right after talking about the Elements so WC must be an element!!) or outdated memories like this one. I mean, if he mentioned Brian playing the fade to CE right after playing Surfs Up one night, or started talking about H&V right after the elements, would you be advocating everyone make their SMiLE that way too--and hounding them incessantly about it from thread to thread to boot?

Fact is, we'll never know. Brian didn't even know in cases like this--not 100%. And before someone jumps down my throat, yeah I do believe the album had a clear direction, was a fully conceptualized entity and he knew what tracks would be on it. But what made up those tracks exactly is more unclear. Especially Elements and IIGS, which are by far the most mysterious tracks there are. So rather than follow some article exactly to the tee (something I don't think either Vosse or Anderle would recommend or intended) I say just do what sounds right in the realm of plausibility--unless you're not going for accuracy in which case run wild.

I'm not sure what playing the song on Humble Harv proves. It was still undeniably an OUTTAKE of Heroes and could still plausibily go on IIGS. LOL

[The Old Master Painter]

It is still a wonder to me why Brian was recording "Love to Say Dada" around then. Any opinions? Where all those post-February recordings for Heroes where actually dedicated to The Elements? Think about it:

Chimes/Whistle Intro= Opening to Mrs. O' Leary's Fire

All Day = Love to Say Dada = Air = Water?

Sleep a Lot = Vega-Tables

An interesting observation.  But if that was really the case, why not slate them as The Elements (as Mrs O'Leary's Cow was)?  Why slate Chimes as Heroes and Villains intro?  Why slate All Day as Love to Say Dada?  Or it's just coincidence that the last remaining songs were (possibly) associated with The Elements (possibly because The Elements as a concept died in December and these were just segments gutted from it (Chimes, at the very least).  

I'm still not buying All Day = Air.  
When it was called "All Day", it was simply a segment of H&V that would have featured spoken word portions in those breaks (which I believe was the only manifestation of the "comedy" aspect of SMiLE, imo, which was even further reduced to "You're Under Arrest!").  Then it eventually became it's own entity in March and was about a baby (hence the term "dada").  Then by June it had started to become CooL Cool Water...  So was All Day an unfinished piano piece?  not really, it was finished as Cool Cool Water!  If anything, All Day is a contender for the Water Element since it eventually became a song about water, but I will be the first to admit that is wishful thinking and there's no direct evidence of it.

Also I think the "all day" lyric in Whistle In is just coincidence, and a stretch at best.  Sorry.

What I think is really interesting is a theory guitarfool and I mentioned (independently, I swear!) in the other thread... what if the "unfinished piano piece" was the fade to Wind Chimes?  That version was never finished and scrapped for a re-record for Smiley Smile, and Vosse really built that segment up as a great unrealized piece.  Again, no direct evidence, but an interesting thought.  

Also an interesting thought I believe Mujan mentioned in the same thread, that a number of vocal and chant pieces were recorded during the "Psychedelic Sounds" sessions that could reflect an element (Veggie chant for Earth, Water chant for Water, breathing for Air).  What if The Elements was, at one point, entirely a spoken word suite?  

One final 'What If'...  We learned that Vegetables was implicitly identified as the Earth section, right?  The April Assembly tape is lacking the Fade... What if the Vege-Tables Fade was meant for The Elements but the rest was meant for the song Vege-Tables?  

Sonic, I listened to your mix of The Elements based on this.... And it's amazing, but may I suggest aomething if you don't mind?

For Fire, I suggest you add the Fire crackling sounds, to make it more identifiably Fire, and vintage accurate since Brian did the same..

For Air, you could add the Breathing sounds over the piano, with tons of echo/reverb, and apply the Smog Rant over that.

For Water, I suggest you add the Water Sounds Vosse recorded in 1966, and to find them, you'd have to look up "Bob Gordon's Real Trip"

And finally for Earth, I suggest you add the some of the Veggie chants or arguments to make it identifiably "Earth."

Just my 2 cents, man. Sounds great so far.

[soniclovenoize]

Sonic, I listened to your mix of The Elements based on this.... And it's amazing, but may I suggest aomething if you don't mind?

For Fire, I suggest you add the Fire crackling sounds, to make it more identifiably Fire, and vintage accurate since Brian did the same..

For Air, you could add the Breathing sounds over the piano, with tons of echo/reverb, and apply the Smog Rant over that.

For Water, I suggest you add the Water Sounds Vosse recorded in 1966, and to find them, you'd have to look up "Bob Gordon's Real Trip"

And finally for Earth, I suggest you add the some of the Veggie chants or arguments to make it identifiably "Earth."

Just my 2 cents, man. Sounds great so far.

Hey thanks for the suggestions, as well as listening!   That mix I posted early was simply a 'What If'.  I don't know if I would actually make an Elements like that.  As I said earlier, I'd prefer my Wind Chimes tag in Wind Chimes and my Veges Fade in Veges!  I just thought it was an interesting idea to string together, especially when the commonality between 3 of the 4 pieces was that they were a repetitive two-chord sequence with variations on a melodic theme. 

Those are interesting ideas with the chants and the water sounds, but a while back I was toying with a different way to view The Elements... 'What If' instead of viewing The Elements as a suite of four separate sections for Earth, Wind, Fire and Water, it's one piece that communicates the interaction and relationship between the four classical elements (because that was an important part about the classical elements, how they interact)? 
 
Since part 1 of ILTSDD sounded like rolling rocks and pebbled to me (earth) and Second Day sounded like leaves blowing in the wind (air) and of course ILTSDD to me sounded like water, you could string that whole section together and it's all of earth, air and water interacting with eachother.  So in my most recent revision to my SMiLE I had an Elements with that, sandwiched between Mrs O'Leary's Cow and the Whispering Winds section for good measure, so instead of four distinct sections it's one piece with the four elements interacting with each other.  With this, you do not need to say Wind Chimes/Vege-Tables/IIGS or another separate song on the 12-song list is an Element, it's all self-sufficient.   

[jiggy22]

For sure jiggy, I'd like to hear your mix. I feel about the same way about it being a better fit for an album like Smiley Smile or Wild Honey, and more controversially, Vega-Tables as well. Though I do concur a Second Day title would be a nice little biblical pun for the Air element.

I finally got around to posting my version of Cool Cool Water onto youtube, I plan on adding more of my remixed stuff on a regular basis. Let me know what you all think, I'd really appreciate it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tbel846NLg

[yonderhillside]

For sure jiggy, I'd like to hear your mix. I feel about the same way about it being a better fit for an album like Smiley Smile or Wild Honey, and more controversially, Vega-Tables as well. Though I do concur a Second Day title would be a nice little biblical pun for the Air element.

I finally got around to posting my version of Cool Cool Water onto youtube, I plan on adding more of my remixed stuff on a regular basis. Let me know what you all think, I'd really appreciate it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tbel846NLg

I enjoyed it jiggy. Very clean edits. I think I'll add it to my alternate Smiley Smile.

Man, I tried posting my stuff on youtube (for first time ever) and had such a hard time. I guess their online video editing software doesn't work for sh*t. Reckon I need to just download some free video editing software on my own.

[jiggy22]

For sure jiggy, I'd like to hear your mix. I feel about the same way about it being a better fit for an album like Smiley Smile or Wild Honey, and more controversially, Vega-Tables as well. Though I do concur a Second Day title would be a nice little biblical pun for the Air element.

I finally got around to posting my version of Cool Cool Water onto youtube, I plan on adding more of my remixed stuff on a regular basis. Let me know what you all think, I'd really appreciate it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tbel846NLg

I enjoyed it jiggy. Very clean edits. I think I'll add it to my alternate Smiley Smile.

Man, I tried posting my stuff on youtube (for first time ever) and had such a hard time. I guess their online video editing software doesn't work for sh*t. Reckon I need to just download some free video editing software on my own.

Thank you so much! I guess it's a good thing that I'm a bit of a perfectionist when it comes to music editing.

[yonderhillside]

For sure jiggy, I'd like to hear your mix. I feel about the same way about it being a better fit for an album like Smiley Smile or Wild Honey, and more controversially, Vega-Tables as well. Though I do concur a Second Day title would be a nice little biblical pun for the Air element.

I finally got around to posting my version of Cool Cool Water onto youtube, I plan on adding more of my remixed stuff on a regular basis. Let me know what you all think, I'd really appreciate it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tbel846NLg

I enjoyed it jiggy. Very clean edits. I think I'll add it to my alternate Smiley Smile.

Man, I tried posting my stuff on youtube (for first time ever) and had such a hard time. I guess their online video editing software doesn't work for sh*t. Reckon I need to just download some free video editing software on my own.

Thank you so much! I guess it's a good thing that I'm a bit of a perfectionist when it comes to music editing.

I've found that in myself as well in my recent excursion into editing and splicing. There's something thrilling about making an incision in a millisecond of time.

[yonderhillside]

For sure jiggy, I'd like to hear your mix. I feel about the same way about it being a better fit for an album like Smiley Smile or Wild Honey, and more controversially, Vega-Tables as well. Though I do concur a Second Day title would be a nice little biblical pun for the Air element.

I finally got around to posting my version of Cool Cool Water onto youtube, I plan on adding more of my remixed stuff on a regular basis. Let me know what you all think, I'd really appreciate it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tbel846NLg

I enjoyed it jiggy. Very clean edits. I think I'll add it to my alternate Smiley Smile.

Man, I tried posting my stuff on youtube (for first time ever) and had such a hard time. I guess their online video editing software doesn't work for sh*t. Reckon I need to just download some free video editing software on my own.

Thank you so much! I guess it's a good thing that I'm a bit of a perfectionist when it comes to music editing.

By the way, what's the source for that early version of Cool, Cool Water?

[jiggy22]

For sure jiggy, I'd like to hear your mix. I feel about the same way about it being a better fit for an album like Smiley Smile or Wild Honey, and more controversially, Vega-Tables as well. Though I do concur a Second Day title would be a nice little biblical pun for the Air element.

I finally got around to posting my version of Cool Cool Water onto youtube, I plan on adding more of my remixed stuff on a regular basis. Let me know what you all think, I'd really appreciate it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tbel846NLg

I enjoyed it jiggy. Very clean edits. I think I'll add it to my alternate Smiley Smile.

Man, I tried posting my stuff on youtube (for first time ever) and had such a hard time. I guess their online video editing software doesn't work for sh*t. Reckon I need to just download some free video editing software on my own.

Thank you so much! I guess it's a good thing that I'm a bit of a perfectionist when it comes to music editing.

By the way, what's the source for that early version of Cool, Cool Water?

It's from the Smile Sessions boxset (Disc 4 - Track 14) - Recorded on June 7th, 1967 during the Smiley Smile sessions.