Q&A: Mike Love's Half-Century With The Beach Boys

[SMiLE Brian]

Seeing mike talk about working on a new solo album it makes me wonder. Since he essentially just rents the Beach Boys name for touring, would be have the authority to release a new album under the Beach Boys name? I'm guessing it'd have to be voted on by the trust?

Mike's license to use The Beach Boys name is for touring purposes only: he cannot release an album as by The Beach Boys any more than Brian or Alan can. Only The Beach Boys can record as The Beach Boys.

Thank goodness for that.  If not, we may have had three or four more Summer in Paradise type albums stinking up the catalog. 

  You got that right!! Quite sure there's more SIP infested material languishing somewhere just waiting like a plague to be cast upon the world.

Now OSD - SIP is not bad, I don't think...I wonder how much better it would have sounded without "auto-drum." 

SIP is atrocious. The fact that it's not even available for sale on digital media platforms is a key giveaway to how bad this album is.

Hypehat's review of SIP (http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,11017.msg212828.html#msg212828) brilliantly shows that "auto-drum" is the least of this album's problems.

That review of SIP is the best post in SS history. Really shows the clusterfuck of SIP in full detail.  

[rab2591]

If Brian Wilson had been on the album - not even in a creative capacity, just in the harmony blend - I have no doubt SIP wouldn't garner half the hate that it does.

I'll stand fully with Hypehat's review where he even takes shots at Carl for participating in this farce, and if Brian was apart of this nonsense no doubt I'd have the same amount of irritation for it.

[filledeplage]

Seeing mike talk about working on a new solo album it makes me wonder. Since he essentially just rents the Beach Boys name for touring, would be have the authority to release a new album under the Beach Boys name? I'm guessing it'd have to be voted on by the trust?

Mike's license to use The Beach Boys name is for touring purposes only: he cannot release an album as by The Beach Boys any more than Brian or Alan can. Only The Beach Boys can record as The Beach Boys.

Thank goodness for that.  If not, we may have had three or four more Summer in Paradise type albums stinking up the catalog. 

  You got that right!! Quite sure there's more SIP infested material languishing somewhere just waiting like a plague to be cast upon the world.

Now OSD - SIP is not bad, I don't think...I wonder how much better it would have sounded without "auto-drum." 

SIP is atrocious. The fact that it's not even available for sale on digital media platforms is a key giveaway to how bad this album is.

Hypehat's review of SIP (http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,11017.msg212828.html#msg212828) brilliantly shows that "auto-drum" is the least of this album's problems.

That review of SIP is the best post in SS history. Really shows the clusterfuck of SIP in full detail.  

That is agreement with a poster's personal review.  It does not necessarily reflect every poster's view.  

[rab2591]

Seeing mike talk about working on a new solo album it makes me wonder. Since he essentially just rents the Beach Boys name for touring, would be have the authority to release a new album under the Beach Boys name? I'm guessing it'd have to be voted on by the trust?

Mike's license to use The Beach Boys name is for touring purposes only: he cannot release an album as by The Beach Boys any more than Brian or Alan can. Only The Beach Boys can record as The Beach Boys.

Thank goodness for that.  If not, we may have had three or four more Summer in Paradise type albums stinking up the catalog. 

  You got that right!! Quite sure there's more SIP infested material languishing somewhere just waiting like a plague to be cast upon the world.

Now OSD - SIP is not bad, I don't think...I wonder how much better it would have sounded without "auto-drum." 

SIP is atrocious. The fact that it's not even available for sale on digital media platforms is a key giveaway to how bad this album is.

Hypehat's review of SIP (http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,11017.msg212828.html#msg212828) brilliantly shows that "auto-drum" is the least of this album's problems.

That review of SIP is the best post in SS history. Really shows the clusterfuck of SIP in full detail.  

Probably my favorite quote from the review here:

"7. Strange Things Happen.

Ok, this is the worst thing so far.

It's something to do with the combination of SLAMMIN' MIKE LOVE JAMS and Al "Well, that never happened before!" Jardine learning about sex in 1991.

OH MY GOD. This is so so so s oo soooooo awful. I am crying with laughter."

[filledeplage]

If Brian Wilson had been on the album - not even in a creative capacity, just in the harmony blend - I have no doubt SIP wouldn't garner half the hate that it does.

I'll stand fully with Hypehat's review where he even takes shots at Carl for participating in this farce, and if Brian was apart of this nonsense no doubt I'd have the same amount of irritation for it.

Good luck with that. Dissing Carl's final album vocals. Lahaina Aloha? Seriously.  

[SMiLE Brian]

If Brian Wilson had been on the album - not even in a creative capacity, just in the harmony blend - I have no doubt SIP wouldn't garner half the hate that it does.

I'll stand fully with Hypehat's review where he even takes shots at Carl for participating in this farce, and if Brian was apart of this nonsense no doubt I'd have the same amount of irritation for it.

But the thing is that if BW was involved, there would be no SIP album since he would actually produce a great album with original material. SIP is the posterchild for how little talent Mike Love has outside of being a supporting BBs member.

[filledeplage]

If Brian Wilson had been on the album - not even in a creative capacity, just in the harmony blend - I have no doubt SIP wouldn't garner half the hate that it does.

I'll stand fully with Hypehat's review where he even takes shots at Carl for participating in this farce, and if Brian was apart of this nonsense no doubt I'd have the same amount of irritation for it.

But the thing is that if BW was involved, there would be no SIP album since he would actually produce a great album with original material. SIP is the posterchild for how little talent Mike Love has outside of being a supporting BBs member.

Could Brian have been involved that year? In fact, Surfin' was co-written by Brian.

[rab2591]

If Brian Wilson had been on the album - not even in a creative capacity, just in the harmony blend - I have no doubt SIP wouldn't garner half the hate that it does.

I'll stand fully with Hypehat's review where he even takes shots at Carl for participating in this farce, and if Brian was apart of this nonsense no doubt I'd have the same amount of irritation for it.

Good luck with that. Dissing Carl's final album vocals. Lahaina Aloha? Seriously.  

Sorry - I've listened to the album several times and that forms my own independent opinion.

[Mike's Beard]

If Brian Wilson had been on the album - not even in a creative capacity, just in the harmony blend - I have no doubt SIP wouldn't garner half the hate that it does.

I'll stand fully with Hypehat's review where he even takes shots at Carl for participating in this farce, and if Brian was apart of this nonsense no doubt I'd have the same amount of irritation for it.

But the thing is that if BW was involved, there would be no SIP album since he would actually produce a great album with original material.

Like SMaRT Girls.

[SMiLE Brian]

The 1961 surfin is a raw song showing the young BBs coming together for the first time. The 1992 surfin is Mike Love writing horrible new lyrics for it and showing a tired band that was practically a ML solo group.

[SMiLE Brian]

If Brian Wilson had been on the album - not even in a creative capacity, just in the harmony blend - I have no doubt SIP wouldn't garner half the hate that it does.

I'll stand fully with Hypehat's review where he even takes shots at Carl for participating in this farce, and if Brian was apart of this nonsense no doubt I'd have the same amount of irritation for it.

But the thing is that if BW was involved, there would be no SIP album since he would actually produce a great album with original material.

Like SMaRT Girls.

I didn't realize the Dr. Landy fecal festival smart girls was an album....

[Wirestone]

If Brian Wilson had been on the album - not even in a creative capacity, just in the harmony blend - I have no doubt SIP wouldn't garner half the hate that it does. That's all the Brianista's biggest problem with it, not that the music is actually that bad but that the band dared to make an album with zero Brian involvement.

I don't recall Brian ever making a BB album that expressly excluded Mike.

[filledeplage]

If Brian Wilson had been on the album - not even in a creative capacity, just in the harmony blend - I have no doubt SIP wouldn't garner half the hate that it does. That's all the Brianista's biggest problem with it, not that the music is actually that bad but that the band dared to make an album with zero Brian involvement.

I don't recall Brian ever making a BB album that expressly excluded Mike.

Would Landy have made Brian available?

Mike didn't have "a Landy" controlling his every move.

[Jim V.]

If Brian Wilson had been on the album - not even in a creative capacity, just in the harmony blend - I have no doubt SIP wouldn't garner half the hate that it does. That's all the Brianista's biggest problem with it, not that the music is actually that bad but that the band dared to make an album with zero Brian involvement.

I don't recall Brian ever making a BB album that expressly excluded Mike.

Would Landy have made Brian available?

Mike didn't have "a Landy" controlling his every move.

Brian wasn't with Landy during the SIP sessions.

[The LEGENDARY OSD]

If Brian Wilson had been on the album - not even in a creative capacity, just in the harmony blend - I have no doubt SIP wouldn't garner half the hate that it does.

I'll stand fully with Hypehat's review where he even takes shots at Carl for participating in this farce, and if Brian was apart of this nonsense no doubt I'd have the same amount of irritation for it.

But the thing is that if BW was involved, there would be no SIP album since he would actually produce a great album with original material. SIP is the posterchild for how little talent Mike Love has outside of being a supporting BBs member.

You hit the proverbial nail on the head, SB. And sincere thanks to Rab for resurrecting Hypehat's stellar review of myKe luHv's pathetic vision and direction of where he thinks the Beach Boys should be. Just another reason that it's so well known here and elsewhere that the luhvster's talent rests somewhere in the drainfields of America.  

[Mike's Beard]

Yeah what a talentless dick, all those crappy songs he helped write like California Girls, Fun, Fun, Fun, Let The Wind Blow, Big Sur, Darlin', I'm Waiting For the Day, Only With You, Good Vibrations.......oh wait..........

[filledeplage]

If Brian Wilson had been on the album - not even in a creative capacity, just in the harmony blend - I have no doubt SIP wouldn't garner half the hate that it does. That's all the Brianista's biggest problem with it, not that the music is actually that bad but that the band dared to make an album with zero Brian involvement.

I don't recall Brian ever making a BB album that expressly excluded Mike.

Would Landy have made Brian available?

Mike didn't have "a Landy" controlling his every move.

Brian wasn't with Landy during the SIP sessions.

Can you clarify those dates? I'm trying to unravel the timeline.  Thanks!   

One site (Landy's wiki) has "Brains and Genius" around until 1992.

[Jim V.]

If Brian Wilson had been on the album - not even in a creative capacity, just in the harmony blend - I have no doubt SIP wouldn't garner half the hate that it does.

I'll stand fully with Hypehat's review where he even takes shots at Carl for participating in this farce, and if Brian was apart of this nonsense no doubt I'd have the same amount of irritation for it.

Good luck with that. Dissing Carl's final album vocals. Lahaina Aloha? Seriously.  

Crazy thing, these people. How dare they diss material they don't like?

Last time I checked, none of The Beach Boys are deities. They aren't perfect. Even they don't like every single thing they've done. Being a fan doesn't mean you have to like every single thing they've ever done. So next time you're defending "Problem Child" remember that even Bruce himself thinks it bites.

So....good luck with that.

[filledeplage]

If Brian Wilson had been on the album - not even in a creative capacity, just in the harmony blend - I have no doubt SIP wouldn't garner half the hate that it does.

I'll stand fully with Hypehat's review where he even takes shots at Carl for participating in this farce, and if Brian was apart of this nonsense no doubt I'd have the same amount of irritation for it.

Good luck with that. Dissing Carl's final album vocals. Lahaina Aloha? Seriously.  

Crazy thing, these people. How dare they diss material they don't like?

Last time I checked, none of The Beach Boys are deities. They aren't perfect. Even they don't like every single thing they've done. Being a fan doesn't mean you have to like every single thing they've ever done. So next time you're defending "Problem Child" remember that even Bruce himself thinks it bites.

Of course they aren't deities.  Carl might be an exception to that rule, being likely the most extraordinary rock vocalist of his time. 

One doesn't need to like everything they release.  I agree with that.

[KDS]

If Brian Wilson had been on the album - not even in a creative capacity, just in the harmony blend - I have no doubt SIP wouldn't garner half the hate that it does.

I'll stand fully with Hypehat's review where he even takes shots at Carl for participating in this farce, and if Brian was apart of this nonsense no doubt I'd have the same amount of irritation for it.

But the thing is that if BW was involved, there would be no SIP album since he would actually produce a great album with original material. SIP is the posterchild for how little talent Mike Love has outside of being a supporting BBs member.

You hit the proverbial nail on the head, SB. And sincere thanks to Rab for resurrecting Hypehat's stellar review of myKe luHv's pathetic vision and direction of where he thinks the Beach Boys should be. Just another reason that it's so well known here and elsewhere that the luhvster's talent rests somewhere in the drainfields of America.  

SIP is a terrible album.  Even Mike himself seems to have dismissed the whole thing.  But, you can't take away the fact that Mike contributed to a lot of classic Beach Boys songs during the glory days.  

Let's be honest too, up until That Lucky Old Sun, Brian's solo material was pretty inconsistent.  But that doesn't mean he's not talented.  

[drbeachboy]

If Brian Wilson had been on the album - not even in a creative capacity, just in the harmony blend - I have no doubt SIP wouldn't garner half the hate that it does.

I'll stand fully with Hypehat's review where he even takes shots at Carl for participating in this farce, and if Brian was apart of this nonsense no doubt I'd have the same amount of irritation for it.

But the thing is that if BW was involved, there would be no SIP album since he would actually produce a great album with original material. SIP is the posterchild for how little talent Mike Love has outside of being a supporting BBs member.

Not Necessarily So! Brian had already recorded songs written and produced by Terry Melcher. Funny, back in the 90's the production didn't bother me too much, but now it drives me crazy. Still Lahaina Aloha and Strange Things Happen work for me and continue in my rotation.

[filledeplage]

If Brian Wilson had been on the album - not even in a creative capacity, just in the harmony blend - I have no doubt SIP wouldn't garner half the hate that it does.

I'll stand fully with Hypehat's review where he even takes shots at Carl for participating in this farce, and if Brian was apart of this nonsense no doubt I'd have the same amount of irritation for it.

But the thing is that if BW was involved, there would be no SIP album since he would actually produce a great album with original material. SIP is the posterchild for how little talent Mike Love has outside of being a supporting BBs member.

You hit the proverbial nail on the head, SB. And sincere thanks to Rab for resurrecting Hypehat's stellar review of myKe luHv's pathetic vision and direction of where he thinks the Beach Boys should be. Just another reason that it's so well known here and elsewhere that the luhvster's talent rests somewhere in the drainfields of America.  

SIP is a terrible album.  Even Mike himself seems to have dismissed the whole thing.  But, you can't take away the fact that Mike contributed to a lot of classic Beach Boys songs during the glory days.  

Let's be honest too, up until That Lucky Old Sun, Brian's solo material was pretty inconsistent.  But that doesn't mean he's not talented.  

TLOS - I like this. Especially Southern California and its autobiographical tone.  

[filledeplage]

If Brian Wilson had been on the album - not even in a creative capacity, just in the harmony blend - I have no doubt SIP wouldn't garner half the hate that it does.

I'll stand fully with Hypehat's review where he even takes shots at Carl for participating in this farce, and if Brian was apart of this nonsense no doubt I'd have the same amount of irritation for it.

But the thing is that if BW was involved, there would be no SIP album since he would actually produce a great album with original material. SIP is the posterchild for how little talent Mike Love has outside of being a supporting BBs member.

Not Necessarily So! Brian had alredy recorded songs written and produced by Terry Melcher. Funny, back in the 90's the production didn't bother me too much, but now it drives me crazy. Still Lahaina Aloha and Strange Things Happen work for me and continue in my rotation.

It might be that it sounds a little "dated" with the production. When I, too, listened in the 90's it sounded just fine to me. 

[CenturyDeprived]

Seeing mike talk about working on a new solo album it makes me wonder. Since he essentially just rents the Beach Boys name for touring, would be have the authority to release a new album under the Beach Boys name? I'm guessing it'd have to be voted on by the trust?

Mike's license to use The Beach Boys name is for touring purposes only: he cannot release an album as by The Beach Boys any more than Brian or Alan can. Only The Beach Boys can record as The Beach Boys.

How is it then that SIP came to be, from a legal, corporate BB releasability standpoint? Did Brian have to be officially asked if he was going to be a part of the album, but then Brian turned down the offer but signed off on the album happening in his absence? Or was it a matter of the other BRI voters deciding to make the album (sans Brian) and Brian was out-voted? I'm well aware of Brian's rough times being extracted from Landy at the time, but I'm speaking purely from a "how did this happen" perspective, since it seems that from a corporate standpoint, this could not happen again in 2015, right?

[filledeplage]

Seeing mike talk about working on a new solo album it makes me wonder. Since he essentially just rents the Beach Boys name for touring, would be have the authority to release a new album under the Beach Boys name? I'm guessing it'd have to be voted on by the trust?

Mike's license to use The Beach Boys name is for touring purposes only: he cannot release an album as by The Beach Boys any more than Brian or Alan can. Only The Beach Boys can record as The Beach Boys.

How is it then that SIP came to be, from a legal, corporate BB releasability standpoint? Did Brian have to be officially asked if he was going to be a part of the album, but then Brian turned down the offer but signed off on the album happening in his absence? Or was it a matter of the other BRI voters deciding to make the album (sans Brian) and Brian was out-voted? I'm well aware of Brian's rough times being extracted from Landy at the time, but I'm speaking purely from a "how did this happen" perspective, since it seems that from a corporate standpoint, this could not happen again in 2015, right?

This was prior to Carl's passing. Things seemed to change afterwards.