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Jack may have had his flaws here and there but thanks to his and Carl's persistence, Surf's Up, the song, was finished and released, and that started the chain of events that, ever so gradually, got Smile out to the world. For that alone, we all owe him bigtime. But there's also Feel Flows, The Trader, his encouragement of Dennis's songwriting....his work in getting the band covered in Rolling Stone et al... and a lot of other things. RIP
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The pop world could do with more colourful characters like you, Jack. Rest in peace.
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Jack sings Day In The Life Of A Tree onstage in Long Beach, Dec 3 '71
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcorwiADBeM
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Never before or since have I heard a BB insider give a quote that is more on-the-nose and well-written than Jack's famous quote, which doubles as Rocker's signature:
"To sum it up, they blew it, they blew it consistently, they continue to blow it, it is tragic and this pathological problem caused The Beach Boys' greatest music to be so underrated by the general public."
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Wow, I just saw Brian's facebook post. That's a shame, he might've had some sketchy credentials, but the guy did a lot to rehabilitate their image and helped Carl, Brian, and Dennis write some great songs. Him recalling how Brian felt about Heroes and Villains' failures is one of my favorite quotes about the band, and the one in Rocker's signature too. Sad to lose another member of the band's history.
Quote from: Mooger Fooger on April 21, 2015, 11:51:11 AM
RIP and thank you for some really cool music outside of the Beach Boys as well.
What else did he do? I can't really find much on him.
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I remember when he was a member of the Pet Sounds mailing list back in the mid-90's. He shared quite a few very interesting stories about his time with the Beach Boys. I kept copies of all of them. One of them he called "The Gravedigger", about the time Brian dug a grave in his backyard. Pretty wild stuff.
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Such sad news... Jack Rieley gave the Beach Boys a great new direction and kicked off one of the most creative periods in the band's history. Just listen to "Surf's Up", "Carl & the Passions" and "Holland"! Thanks Jack for adding another facet to the legend of the Beach Boys...
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Jack was brought in to help make the band hip. I think he succeeded. I think he wrote more avant-garde artsy-fartsy lyrics than Van Dyke did.
There's a great interview with Jack somewhere on the Internet, maybe even on this website. Recommended reading. Jack was very candid and comical and really exposing his feelings about a lot of things. Always loved "You Need A Mess Of Help" and "Hold On Dear Brother". Jack's best stuff is on the CT&P album. Anybody here heard his album Western Justice?
I'm going home tonight and play the live '73 version of Marcella and turn it up LOUD in Jack's honor. I love this song. Jack conveyed what Brian was thinking about the masseuse in West Hollywood:
Mystic maiden's more than soft and sexy
She can mess my mind with the stuff that she knows
Her new found beauty goes beyond her covering
And sets a flame in her soul!
Brave new woman standing proud and dazzling
Grips the goal that eluded her soul
Direction bringing her to now's tomorrow
And my love for her still grows!
One arm over my shoulder
Sandals dance at my feet
Eyes that knock you right over
Ooo Marcella's so sweet!!
I remember when I played "Mount Vernon & Fairway" in the dark a few times for my then 5 year old daughter.
"Dad?"
"Yes."
"Who's the voice of the Pied Piper?"
"Brian."
"Brian sounds funny!
"Yeah."
"Who's the other man talking?"
"Jack."
"Is Jack a Beach Boy too?"
"Kinda, but he's helping Brian with the Fairy Tale."
"I like the music in the background."
"Me too!"
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I, I love the colorful clothes she wears, and she's already working on my brain. I only looked in her eyes, but I picked up something I just can't explain. I, I bet I know what she’s like, and I can feel how right she’d be for me. It’s weird how she comes in so strong, and I wonder what she’s picking up from me. I hope it’s good, good, good, good vibrations, yeah!!
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Quote from: wantsomecorn on April 21, 2015, 12:46:49 PM
Quote from: Mooger Fooger on April 21, 2015, 11:51:11 AM
RIP and thank you for some really cool music outside of the Beach Boys as well.
What else did he do? I can't really find much on him.
Try to find the Western Justice album, he made with Machiel Botman (in 1974/75). It's quite good.
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Quote from: Gregg on April 21, 2015, 12:52:26 PM
I remember when he was a member of the Pet Sounds mailing list back in the mid-90's. He shared quite a few very interesting stories about his time with the Beach Boys. I kept copies of all of them. One of them he called "The Gravedigger", about the time Brian dug a grave in his backyard. Pretty wild stuff.
can you post the stories here for those who didn't get to read them then?
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Sad news.
'Tree' breaks my heart as much as Til I Die, so I thank Jack for the part he played in enriching my life with that recording and of course for the other contributions he made.
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Sure. I'll look them up tonight when I get home.
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It's not much, but there's some music and bits of interviews here:
http://fridaynightboys300.blogspot.co.uk/2015/04/jack-rieley-rip.html
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Quote from: SMiLE Holland on April 21, 2015, 01:18:09 PM
Quote from: wantsomecorn on April 21, 2015, 12:46:49 PM
Quote from: Mooger Fooger on April 21, 2015, 11:51:11 AM
RIP and thank you for some really cool music outside of the Beach Boys as well.
What else did he do? I can't really find much on him.
Try to find the Western Justice album, he made with Machiel Botman (in 1974/75). It's quite good.
I'll go one further and say it's rather brilliant.
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Quote from: KDS on April 21, 2015, 11:22:27 AM
Perhaps Brian will dedicate Sail on Sailor to his memory.
Maybe we can hope that Brian, or Mike's Beach Boys, adds Long Promised Road and Feel Flows into the setlist as a tribute also.
Back in the day when Brian was 'iffy' and the Beach Boys were sailing with little wind and absolutely NO rudder...Jack saved them, gave them direction, made them valid and turned them into one of the greatest live acts in the world.
That he was never reintroduced into the equation was a sad commentary on what has been without wind and rudder for most of these past THIRTY-THIRTY-FIVE years.
A great and important member of our team. A terrible loss for his loved ones, friends and family. A devastating loss for the group...WAY back when.
Next to a healthy and creative Brian Jack Rieley was as important as ANY other member of the group. Just getting rid of those matching white suits was a HUGE bonus...let alone his direction and input regarding the music.
Brian has done the right thing but I'm not so sure that the 'Beach Boys' will salute him. There was animosity. A certain individual had been pushed back from the front of the stage much to the improvement of the over-all picture.
Damn!!!
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Quote from: Smilin Ed H on April 21, 2015, 01:33:00 PM
It's not much, but there's some music and bits of interviews here:
http://fridaynightboys300.blogspot.co.uk/2015/04/jack-rieley-rip.html
Yeah, Ed, that was the interview I was alluding to earlier. Good stuff.
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I, I love the colorful clothes she wears, and she's already working on my brain. I only looked in her eyes, but I picked up something I just can't explain. I, I bet I know what she’s like, and I can feel how right she’d be for me. It’s weird how she comes in so strong, and I wonder what she’s picking up from me. I hope it’s good, good, good, good vibrations, yeah!!
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RIP Jack. Thank you for everything, and particularly for co-writing Funky Pretty, one of my very favorite Beach Boys songs.
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Quote from: Mikie on April 21, 2015, 01:09:41 PM
Jack was brought in to help make the band hip. I think he succeeded. I think he wrote more avant-garde artsy-fartsy lyrics than Van Dyke did.
There's a great interview with Jack somewhere on the Internet, maybe even on this website. Recommended reading. Jack was very candid and comical and really exposing his feelings about a lot of things. Always loved "You Need A Mess Of Help" and "Hold On Dear Brother". Jack's best stuff is on the CT&P album. Anybody here heard his album Western Justice?
I'm going home tonight and play the live '73 version of Marcella and turn it up LOUD in Jack's honor. I love this song. Jack conveyed what Brian was thinking about the masseuse in West Hollywood:
Mystic maiden's more than soft and sexy
She can mess my mind with the stuff that she knows
Her new found beauty goes beyond her covering
And sets a flame in her soul!
Brave new woman standing proud and dazzling
Grips the goal that eluded her soul
Direction bringing her to now's tomorrow
And my love for her still grows!
One arm over my shoulder
Sandals dance at my feet
Eyes that knock you right over
Ooo Marcella's so sweet!!
I remember when I played "Mount Vernon & Fairway" in the dark a few times for my then 5 year old daughter.
"Dad?"
"Yes."
"Who's the voice of the Pied Piper?"
"Brian."
"Brian sounds funny!
"Yeah."
"Who's the other man talking?"
"Jack."
"Is Jack a Beach Boy too?"
"Kinda, but he's helping Brian with the Fairy Tale."
"I like the music in the background."
"Me too!"
Great post, Mikie, providing a sense of the creative energy Jack Rieley brought to the group. Yes, he definitely succeeded in making the BBs come across as a more hip contemporary band. I well remember his announcements from the stage during the Dec. 3, '71 Long Beach Arena concert, as well as his vocals, accompanying BW on organ, on A Day in the Life of a Tree. A truly great time to be a fan.
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Quote from: SMiLE Holland on April 21, 2015, 01:18:09 PM
Quote from: wantsomecorn on April 21, 2015, 12:46:49 PM
Quote from: Mooger Fooger on April 21, 2015, 11:51:11 AM
RIP and thank you for some really cool music outside of the Beach Boys as well.
What else did he do? I can't really find much on him.
Try to find the Western Justice album, he made with Machiel Botman (in 1974/75). It's quite good.
Don't know if the site is still functional, or selling, but try here:
Western Justice
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Sorry to hear the sad news. RIP Jack. Love your lyrics.
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Very sorry to hear this. I've always liked what Jack Rieley did for the band. "Feel Flows" and "Steamboat" are among my all-time favorites.
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You can listen to the Western Justice album on Spotify, by the way.
Saddened to hear of his passing. All things considered he was one of the best things that ever happened to the group. Will spin some Holland in his honor.
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Quote from: SMiLE Holland on April 21, 2015, 01:18:09 PM
Try to find the Western Justice album, he made with Machiel Botman (in 1974/75). It's quite good.
Sorry to hear about Jack's passing...
Recently found (and bought) a vinyl copy of the
Western Justice
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Holland
's cousin, they go together remarkably well.
I know Roel Kruize, the managing director of EMI/Bovema in those days, was considering a reissue on vinyl a few years ago (from the original multitracks), so for those interested, please do try and contact him via the link posted by Andrew.
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Quote from: phirnis on April 21, 2015, 03:34:57 PM
You can listen to the Western Justice album on Spotify, by the way.
Saddened to hear of his passing. All things considered he was one of the best things that ever happened to the group. Will spin some Holland in his honor.
You can also buy it on iTunes.
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Jack's influence was interesting to work with and he was a pleasure to know. Being around him was soothing and calming. Rest in peace Jack and may you have eternal . . . Good Listening, ~Stephen W. Desper
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