The Mark Linett Thread
king of anglia:
Just to bombard you some more Mark. Regarding sampled/convolution reverb, I took a hand clap and drum click from a session track of Beach Boys session, bathed in echo chamber and used them as impulses for the convolution reverb. Sounds very good.
Convolution reverb is an amazing but simple idea. It's revolutionised digital reverb.
H, is that Jonbon Jovi?
Joshilyn Hoisington:
Yes it is. It was one of the only preloaded choices for the board that I didn't absolutely loathe.
What program do you use for sampling reverbs, king o'? I was still holding out for building my own live chamber...but I'm about ready to bite the bullet and forget the dream.
yrplace:
Quote from: aeijtzsche on January 04, 2006, 08:54:20 AM
Mark, a couple of months ago, it dawned on me that the track "Pet Sounds" was tracked in a somewhat unique way from the rest of the tracks from the LP.
The percussion track was tracked first, that's why the first take as presented on the box set doesn't feature any other instruments, right?
Then, playing around with stereo balance and out of phase stereo cancellation and such, I came to the conclusion that there were several more seperate overdubs. The basses are pretty much alone on one track (and must have been tracked by themselves; there seems to be absolutely no leakage from anything on the bass track), and then Brian went out into the booth and played piano while Richie Frost added some drums and the horn section did their thing. Am I correct so far?
I wondered on the old bored if it was done this way partly because there weren't enough percussion players to pull off what Brian wanted live, and then since there was the preexisting percussion track, the group would have had to use headphones, of which there may not have been enough for everyone at once?
So then, there would have been an additional horn overdub, a reduction to a new tape, then the bongos, and the two lead guitar overdubs?
I may be way off base, but I think there's some interesting stuff going on there.
On another note, there has been much written about your process for remixing Pet Sounds, but how similar or different was the process for your remixes of the Smiley Smile and Wild Honey material for Hawthorne?
Vegetables and Let the Wind Blow are my two favourite remixes of yours, and I've wondered if everything was present on an eight-track, or if some synching had to be done, etc. Also, if you did any other mixes from those albums potentially for Hawthorne that didn't make the cut.
I believe that the song pet Sounds was built up on three tracks and then the guitar solo was added. No idea why Brian did it that way, but it may have been that he didn't have enough players at the studio to do it any other way.
As for Vegetables and Let the Wind Blow on Hawthorne, the latter had all the tracks on one 8 track, but Vegetables did require editing of the sections together to create a complete multi-track to mix from. By this time everything was being done on 8 track and in this case just one generation, no dubdowns as with some songs like "Time To Get Alone" which did require the syncing of a couple of 8 tracks.
I don't recall that we mixed any other tracks that were left off the project.
Mark
Joshilyn Hoisington:
Thank you, Mark.
And King, wow, I just got around to trying the convolution plug-in that comes with audition...and holy cow. I now have Western, Gold Star, Sunset Sound, and other famous echo chambers "at my disposal."
Why didn't somebody tell me about this before?
yrplace:
Quote from: aeijtzsche on January 04, 2006, 11:00:57 AM
Thank you, Mark.
And King, wow, I just got around to trying the convolution plug-in that comes with audition...and holy cow. I now have Western, Gold Star, Sunset Sound, and other famous echo chambers "at my disposal."
Why didn't somebody tell me about this before?
Now I have a question for you.
How could someone create a sample of Goldstar's chamber since it was destroyed 20 years ago ? You can sample a chamber (or any line level reverb) quite easily if it exists and you have access to it to play and record the required impulses for measurement by the convolution program, but that's the only way I know of to "sample" a chamber or device.....Also what exactly is audition..... Mark
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