SIP Could Have Sold Much Better As Is
Lonely Summer:
Quote from: Mujan, B@st@rd Son of a Blue Wizard on January 10, 2015, 03:39:05 PM
Quote from: Add Some on January 10, 2015, 03:27:33 PM
I've decided...after really thinking about it since this thread began. Summer In Paradise could have sold TONS better IF it has dropped all of the songs hitherto employed and had instead issued something completely different, timely, meaningful and worthwhile. :hat
Sorry...but there just isn't enough input from ALL of the Beach Boys...and way too much from guests and those who really aren't composers or arrangers. It's almost a solo albun. WRONG move. :o
Great album cover though. 8)
Everyone always says that. Am I the only one who thinks the album cover is tacky as hell and generic?
As for the topic at hand...no. You can't polish a turd. And the beach boys weren't cool enough to move records at the time, especially without Brian.
This album was 4 years too late. If it had come out right after "Kokomo", it would have moved a few copies just on residual interest. The "Kokomo" sound was already dated by 1992. But maybe Mike had never heard "Smells Like Teen Spirit".
phirnis:
For some reason I'd love to hear what Masterpiece would've been like. Do we know if any initial recordings exist? I'm wondering if the album would've contained any song(s) about cutlery.
Mujan, 8@$+@Rc| of a Blue Wizard:
Quote from: phirnis on January 11, 2015, 03:51:27 AM
For some reason I'd love to hear what Masterpiece would've been like. Do we know if any initial recordings exist? I'm wondering if the album would've contained any song(s) about cutlery.
I didn't even know such an album (almost) existed until coming across a reference on this board just the other day. Where could one find more information on this? Was it abandoned when SIP flopped or for other reasons?
Mujan, 8@$+@Rc| of a Blue Wizard:
Quote from: Rick Bartlett on January 11, 2015, 12:12:08 AM
I believe you can blame Dean Torrence for that logo, going back to the '15 big ones' period artwork....
I actually like the logo myself. may even get it tattooe'd!
RickB
See, it makes sense on that cover because of the throwback tunes and celebration of the band's 15-year history. That neon sign look fits that oldies vibe. But making it the band's official logo just makes them seem eternally dated, imho. It's not timeless like other famous bands' iconography.
Lee Marshall:
YA but...Ya but...Ya but...The album cover AND logo are both better than and superior to...the contents contained there-in. The logo may well be dated...but at least IT once had its day. The music here? Not so much.
That other thread? The one where we all shuddered to think what the 2017 album would be? SIP is darned close to 'it'. [minus Carl] It wouldn't be any more advanced I'm afraid. Just kind of stuck in neutral...remembering the good old days which actually never happened THIS way.
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And ALL that said...I am a listener...not a collector. Am I glad I own the album and got a chance to hear its contents? Absolutely...100%. If I knew it existed and was hidden away in 'the vaults' would I want it? You betcha. So as BAD as the contents are...it's BAD compared to a whole mess of other recordings by THE BEACH BOYS. Compared to other groups? [and compared to at least 40% of what POSES as a top 40 hit in THIS day and age... ... ...it ain't THAT bad. There's 'musicality' there. [except on 'Forever' which was just a terrible choice, idea, and route to travel.] It just kind of reminds me of the cover albums the Ray Conniff Singers used to put out in the early/mid 70s. Close but NO cigar.
It's M.O.R. 'filler' and not worthy of The Beach Boys.
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