Aborted 1966 and 1967 live albums?

[Mr. Wilson]

Agreed AGD..So when are you gonna use your  info and  write a new book about BB..?.. I"d be the 1st guy in line to read ANYTHING you would have  to say in print. We all know England has a soft spot for BB.You guys loved the BB when USA went cold..You could print up a book of reviews of all BB//BW concerts
you have ever seen..It would be an interesting read..You guys love the BB for different reasons than USA folks do..Ive lived in california all my life.I have a different slant than the rest of USA let alone a British perspective..IMHO..You + your researchers..{Ian etc} could put together a GREAT book..Take the info from your website with stories of concerts + meetings + fan"s stuff and write a great book and not even use any dirt..Your perspective of seeing BW play SMILE 1st time in print would be AWESOME..Please consider this thought..Yes i know lots of stuff is on internet..I prefer books to internet..What DOYA think.??.Paul

[lee]

I have not heard the Michigan show but I quite enjoy the Hawaii recordings. Like SMILE Brian said, it's like getting a live Smiley Smile experience. It has a vibe that the other shows from that era don't. I'd be very happy to see an official release one day (with dvd footage as well).

I'm not sure how many live shows were officially recorded/filmed but it would be nice if The Beach Boys got a bootleg series as Miles Davis just did that combines 2 cds with a dvd of live footage.

[Andrew G. Doe]

Agreed AGD..So when are you gonna use your  info and  write a new book about BB..?.. I"d be the 1st guy in line to read ANYTHING you would have  to say in print. We all know England has a soft spot for BB.You guys loved the BB when USA went cold..You could print up a book of reviews of all BB//BW concerts
you have ever seen..It would be an interesting read..You guys love the BB for different reasons than USA folks do..Ive lived in california all my life.I have a different slant than the rest of USA let alone a British perspective..IMHO..You + your researchers..{Ian etc} could put together a GREAT book..Take the info from your website with stories of concerts + meetings + fan"s stuff and write a great book and not even use any dirt..Your perspective of seeing BW play SMILE 1st time in print would be AWESOME..Please consider this thought..Yes i know lots of stuff is on internet..I prefer books to internet..What DOYA think.??.Paul

I think that 1) there are other people far more qualified to write something of this nature and 2) the market for such a book would be limited. But thanks for the kind words.

BTW, Ian isn't "my researcher" - I can't afford his salary. 

[LostArt]

My point exactly - no shows for four months = ring rusty. I seriously doubt they did any rehearsal other than that which they did when they got to Hawaii.

This, plus the fact that Bruce wasn't there to play the bass, and Brian was stuck behind his Baldwin which left Carl and Al to split the bass duties.  And I may be mistaken, but wasn't Dennis' kit stripped down to just a snare and a kick drum?  Or just a snare?  It's been awhile since I've listened to these shows.  Anyway, totally different instrumentation means totally different arrangements.  Add in the fact that a certain member(s) of the ensemble may (or may not) have been under the influence of a certain substance(s), I can definitely understand why the shows turned out the way that they did.

[rogerlancelot]

List of shows that circulate from 1967 (from The Real Beach Boy's list):

8/25/67   Honolulu International Center Arena, Honolulu, HI (40 minutes, soundboard)
Aloha From Hawaii (And Hollywood) - Spank (2001)
8/26/67   Honolulu International Center Arena, Honolulu, HI (40 minutes, soundboard) - Hawthorne Boulevard is the big "surprise".
Let's Take A Trip Down Hawthorne Blvd - RTG ()
11/17/67   Masonic Auditorium, Detroit, MI (35 minutes, soundboard)
A Vocal Element (Disc 1) - Hang Ten (2006)
11/19/67   Constitution Hall, Washington, DC (40 minutes, soundboard)
Goodbye Surfing Hello God (Disc 2) - Vigotone (2001)
11/21/67   Westchester Community Center, Westchester, NY (30 minutes, soundboard)
A Vocal Element - Hang Ten (2006)
11/22/67   Penn Theatre, Pittsburgh, PA (35 minutes, soundboard)
A Vocal Element (Disc 2) - Hang Ten (2006)
11/23/67   Back Bay Theater, Boston, MA (35 minutes, soundboard)
A Vocal Element (Disc 1) Hang Ten (2006)

I added text in italics with the names of titles circulating. You can probably find these easily on bit torrent sites or various "fan" blogs.

[smile-holland]

I would suggest that you use the search option this board makes available and enter Lei'd In Hawaii or Hawaii Concert 1967  or Michigan 1966...use your imagination for variations. There have been countless discussions on this board and others about this well researched subject. You might also try "google". Pretty much everybody here knows why these albums were never released, and you can too with just a tiny bit of effort.

What a d1ckhe@d !

@ lunarjetman: If you don't agree with the general tone of a post (and to be honest, I've seen much much worse than this) there are several more constructive ways to reply. And this is not one of them.

[feelsflow]

I knew a girl who was a waitress at a hipster restaurant.

Was Pabst Blue Ribbon the featured beer on tap?

PBR and their returnable glass bottles got us through college.

it's very strong for a cheap beer ... around here in San Francisco, Eye of the Hawk is the real stuff !

...for our very own Andrew.

Using the search function, I went looking for examples to help explain his frustration...

This is the first one I'd like to pull up.  Helps I hope, and has some of my very favorite posters doing the explainin'.  and more beer notes...

[Billf]

I was at the Michigan show, in Ann Arbor in October 1966, on the heels of the release of Good Vibrations. It's widely known that Brian made the trip to help the group polish its live version of the song. They announced that the show was being recorded and, at the end, they brought Brian, who did not perform, out to thunderous applause. Equally cool was that the Standells opened the show.
Good times.

[Smilin Ed H]

Here's one from 66 you could listen to:

http://bigozine2.com/roio/?p=739

[guitarfool2002]

Just to sum up the concerts they had "officially" recorded up to Fall '67 I believe had been considered off and on for release, and I'm guessing off the top of my head they and Capitol were fishing for a follow-up to the original "Concert" release which was a bigger hit as an album than I think a lot of people realize in its day.

For us as fans, we hear some really, really great live performances on these various "officially" recorded show. The unplugged-acoustic-Party! mini set is especially a highlight, with Dennis' lead vocals and a pretty damn good fidelity recording of them playing acoustic/stripped-down music on stage.

But for probably many reasons, they never seemed to get enough together that they were happy with to assemble a full concert album as they had earlier.

AND...keep in mind their music had changed so drastically in some cases, the differences from 64 to 65 to 66 to 67 would be massive. And some might sound dated for a new release. Imagine getting a 65 concert after the group was out touring behind Pet Sounds. Jarring, perhaps, for fans.

And this is also why one concept that almost made it to the record shops in '67 was one of the plans around the Wild Honey project to include "highlights" from the last few years' vault collection of live shows, from Michigan to Hawaii. That too obviously never materialized.

[startBBtoday]

Here's one from 66 you could listen to:

http://bigozine2.com/roio/?p=739

That's Al's falsetto on Hawaii and Bruce on I Get Around, right? If so, it's amazing how much stronger Al's voice was than Bruce's, even in 1966. And it's amazing how similar Al could sound to Brian.