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Author Topic: Only with You (1972) preview from MSN  (Read 11060 times)
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« Reply #50 on: August 22, 2013, 05:07:14 AM »

This is great. I remember first hearing this on Goodbye Surfing, Hello God! and thought the quality was pretty good, although a bit hissy. Then I heard it in upgraded quality on Carnegie Hall 1972 and thought it couldn't sound better. And now this... Very well recorded and mixed.

BTW, the original MSN link doesn't have that weird effect/artifact on the piano. I guess something went wrong during capturing or encoding...


Ooops-I had to save it as a .wpl and then convert to mp3

Let me give it another go-sorry about that guys!
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« Reply #51 on: August 22, 2013, 05:20:51 AM »

Now THIS - this is a live track worth having. I was totally underwhelmed by the 'Wendy' one the other day, which seems to be on the box more as if to say 'aren't we clever that we were able to rescue this 1964 live broadcast' rather than because the performance was interesting or memorable in any way, but THIS - this is gold dust.

The funny thing is, the arrangement isn't really any different from what's on Holland (and usually I prefer my live tracks to have something different about them, rather than just being carbon copies of the album version arrangement with some extra crowd noise at the start and end...), but the live performance here is so captivating that it totally won me over. Like many above, I think I prefer this to the album version.

That Carl geezer sure had some pipes, di'n 'e?
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« Reply #52 on: August 22, 2013, 06:46:40 AM »

 Huh Its a weird file, on my desktop it opens in the browser window as a music player with a little orange cone in the middle of the screen. The .asx file is not obtainable with a right click - its just a link to the stream. No idea how to capture this.  Huh
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« Reply #53 on: August 22, 2013, 07:27:23 AM »

Huh Its a weird file, on my desktop it opens in the browser window as a music player with a little orange cone in the middle of the screen. The .asx file is not obtainable with a right click - its just a link to the stream. No idea how to capture this.  Huh

Same here-all I can find is some third party software but it makes the piano go all weird. I'll keep trying though
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« Reply #54 on: August 22, 2013, 08:40:13 AM »

What's with the weird filter effect on the piano? Is that on the bootleg?

It's actually more prominent on the bootleg.  At least the copy I have.  Sounds like digital artifacts from too much noise reduction.  I'm guessing the early boots of this show were circulated on cassette & gathered some tape hiss over the generations.  When these things began to circulate digitally, people tried to reduce the hiss, sometimes overdoing it.  Anyway, this version sounds quite good to me, compared to what I'm used to.
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« Reply #55 on: August 22, 2013, 09:07:06 AM »

Like some of you, I couldn't open that strange file format in any of my note program. Tried to follow all the suggested advices but nothing worked. So, I'm very glad to see that Cliff solved it by posting another mp3. Thank you, friend!

About the song: I wholeheartedly agree that live version is a great deal better than the Holland track, even though it's sung again by Carl (Dennis is only in the tag). Before listening to this, I used to think that Dennis fitted more for singing his own composition. Now I changed my mind & came to conclusion that Carl can be real good when necessary. Well done!

Re wavering sound effects: in my humble opinion, it's kind of cool! Adds somewhat psychedelic dreamy color. And I'm a huge fan of the genre!
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« Reply #56 on: August 22, 2013, 09:11:25 AM »

Ah, now I hear what you mean...

The mp3 file that Cliff so graciously put up is faulty for some reason. There's something weird going on with the stereo image, which is most noticeable on stuff that's not centered (the piano, audience, etc.).

However, listening to the MSN stream, there is a very minor wobble or vibrato to the piano for some reason.

On the Carnegie Hall 1972 CD, you clearly hear digital NR going on, but that's another type of artifact and have nothing to do with the stuff above. Seems like people used NR and then put this material onto cassette because the NR artifacts are underneath the tape hiss.

Anyway, good song. Can' wait for the box. Weetabox.
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« Reply #57 on: August 22, 2013, 09:22:09 AM »

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« Reply #59 on: August 22, 2013, 10:05:50 AM »

Also, I downmixed Cliff's mp3 to mono, which seemed to remove the distracting ping-pong effect.
It's not distracting at all - it's in & stylish!
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