The Smiley Smile Message Board
Welcome,
Guest
. Please
login
or
register
.
1 Hour
1 Day
1 Week
1 Month
Forever
Login with username, password and session length
If you like this message board, please help with the hosting costs!
683403
Posts in
27773
Topics by
4100
Members - Latest Member:
bunny505
August 25, 2025, 07:20:33 AM
The Smiley Smile Message Board
|
Smiley Smile Stuff
|
General On Topic Discussions
|
Songs I didn't know were in the set.
0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic.
« previous
next »
Pages:
[
1
]
2
Author
Topic: Songs I didn't know were in the set. (Read 6736 times)
MBE
Guest
Songs I didn't know were in the set.
«
on:
August 10, 2013, 04:30:37 AM »
Read Jon and Ian's book I am surprised by a few of the things in the sets. Papa-Oom-Mow-Mow in 1977, Celebrate The News in 1971, It's Over Now, I Just Wasn't Made For These Times, and The Night Was So Young on the boxset tour in 1993. Anybody hear these?
Logged
SonicVolcano
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Gender:
Posts: 279
Re: Songs I didn't know were in the set.
«
Reply #1 on:
August 10, 2013, 05:38:18 AM »
I'm surprised that they didn't mention Big Sur being performed at the Hartford 1973 concert!
Logged
Iron Horse-Apples
Guest
Re: Songs I didn't know were in the set.
«
Reply #2 on:
August 10, 2013, 07:33:07 AM »
Wish I'd caught a box-set concert. Looking forward to hearing some of this on MIC.
Logged
Rocky Raccoon
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Gender:
Posts: 2396
Re: Songs I didn't know were in the set.
«
Reply #3 on:
August 10, 2013, 07:38:57 AM »
I wonder who sang lead on I Just Wasn't Made for These Times. I can't picture anybody but Brian singing that, not that Al or Carl couldn't do it justice but it's just such a personal song.
Logged
Quote from: BrianWilson2015 on January 26, 2015, 11:04:53 AM
Cheese pizza.
drbeachboy
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Gender:
Posts: 5214
Re: Songs I didn't know were in the set.
«
Reply #4 on:
August 10, 2013, 07:43:22 AM »
Quote from: Mike Eder on August 10, 2013, 04:30:37 AM
Read Jon and Ian's book I am surprised by a few of the things in the sets. Papa-Oom-Mow-Mow in 1977, Celebrate The News in 1971, It's Over Now, I Just Wasn't Made For These Times, and The Night Was So Young on the boxset tour in 1993. Anybody hear these?
I attended the Valley Forge Music Fair show in Devon, PA back in 1993 and do not recall any of those three songs performed that day.
Logged
The Brianista Prayer
Oh Brian
Thou Art In Hawthorne,
Harmonied Be Thy name
Your Kingdom Come,
Your Steak Well Done,
On Stage As It Is In Studio,
Give Us This Day, Our Shortenin' Bread
And Forgive Us Our Bootlegs,
As We Also Have Forgiven Our Wife And Managers,
And Lead Us Not Into Kokomo,
But Deliver Us From Mike Love.
Amen. ---hypehat
Emdeeh
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Posts: 3010
Re: Songs I didn't know were in the set.
«
Reply #5 on:
August 10, 2013, 08:11:21 AM »
Quote from: Mike Eder on August 10, 2013, 04:30:37 AM
...It's Over Now, I Just Wasn't Made For These Times, and The Night Was So Young on the boxset tour in 1993.
None of those songs were performed in the Atlanta '93 boxset show. I was there and took setlist notes.
Logged
Jay
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Posts: 5992
Re: Songs I didn't know were in the set.
«
Reply #6 on:
August 10, 2013, 08:12:18 AM »
They actually played It's Over Now in concert??? Are you sure about that? I don't doubt the credibility of Ian or Jon, I'm just really surprised by that. You'd think it would have been mentioned on this board before.
Logged
A son of anarchy surrounded by the hierarchy.
Lowbacca
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Posts: 3598
please let me wonder
Re: Songs I didn't know were in the set.
«
Reply #7 on:
August 10, 2013, 08:18:33 AM »
Quote from: drbeachboy on August 10, 2013, 07:43:22 AM
Quote from: Mike Eder on August 10, 2013, 04:30:37 AM
Read Jon and Ian's book I am surprised by a few of the things in the sets. Papa-Oom-Mow-Mow in 1977, Celebrate The News in 1971, It's Over Now, I Just Wasn't Made For These Times, and The Night Was So Young on the boxset tour in 1993. Anybody hear these?
I attended the Valley Forge Music Fair show in Devon, PA back in 1993 and do not recall any of those three songs performed that day.
To back that up: it's not on the recording (bootleg) of the show, either.
Regarding those songs allegedly performed: Ian's and Jon's book quotes an unnamed "contributor to
Beach Boys Stomp
" who was present at the November 21 show. It's
that
guy who reports a "fabulous Carl lead on 'It's Over Now'" as well as "The Night Was So Young" being played and Al singing "I Just Wasn't Made For These Times".
«
Last Edit: August 10, 2013, 08:19:26 AM by Lowbacca
»
Logged
Cam Mott
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Posts: 4171
Re: Songs I didn't know were in the set.
«
Reply #8 on:
August 10, 2013, 08:25:42 AM »
Quote from: Rocky Raccoon on August 10, 2013, 07:38:57 AM
Tony Asher should sing it then.
Logged
"Bring me the head of Carmen Sandiego" Lynne "The Chief" Thigpen
MBE
Guest
Re: Songs I didn't know were in the set.
«
Reply #9 on:
August 10, 2013, 01:50:38 PM »
They didn't sing it at the test box set show in Chicago that fall either. That's why I was asking about them and the others.
Logged
Jay
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Posts: 5992
Re: Songs I didn't know were in the set.
«
Reply #10 on:
August 12, 2013, 06:09:32 AM »
Speaking of songs that were rarely performed live, I swear to God that I have heard a recording of a live performance of The Beaks Of Eagles. But for the life of me, I can't remember where or when it happened. I'm thinking that it was a circa 1972-73 concert. I don't think it was a dream. At least I hope it wasn't just a dream. It seems so vivid in my mind. I mean, I can even remember that the sound quality wasn't all that great. Is there
any
small shred of evidence that this actually happened or exists on tape? Or have I finally well and truly gone batshit insane?
Logged
A son of anarchy surrounded by the hierarchy.
Lowbacca
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Posts: 3598
please let me wonder
Re: Songs I didn't know were in the set.
«
Reply #11 on:
August 12, 2013, 06:12:27 AM »
Quote from: Jay on August 12, 2013, 06:09:32 AM
Speaking of songs that were rarely performed live, I swear to God that I have heard a recording of a live performance of The Beaks Of Eagles. But for the life of me, I can't remember where or when it happened. I'm thinking that it was a circa 1972-73 concert. I don't think it was a dream. At least I hope it wasn't just a dream. It seems so vivid in my mind. I mean, I can even remember that the sound quality wasn't all that great. Is there
any
small shred of evidence that this actually happened or exists on tape? Or have I finally well and truly gone batshit insane?
I've never heard about it being performed, but anything is possible. I'm going to check the 1972/73 chapters in
The Beach Boys In Concert
, maybe it's listed there. Or maybe someone else is faster and actually knows the answer.
Logged
J.G. Dev
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Posts: 256
Re: Songs I didn't know were in the set.
«
Reply #12 on:
August 12, 2013, 06:33:29 AM »
Quote from: Emdeeh on August 10, 2013, 08:11:21 AM
Quote from: Mike Eder on August 10, 2013, 04:30:37 AM
...It's Over Now, I Just Wasn't Made For These Times, and The Night Was So Young on the boxset tour in 1993.
None of those songs were performed in the Atlanta '93 boxset show. I was there and took setlist notes.
I was at the Brandeis University (Massachusetts) show and they didn't play those either. I don't have the new book yet, but which box set shows did they play those songs at?
Edit: Ok, I reread a prior post and said November 21. I beleive the show I saw was a week later
«
Last Edit: August 12, 2013, 06:54:47 AM by J.G. Dev
»
Logged
punkinhead
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Gender:
Posts: 4508
what it means to be human
Re: Songs I didn't know were in the set.
«
Reply #13 on:
August 12, 2013, 07:03:08 AM »
Quote from: Mike Eder on August 10, 2013, 04:30:37 AM
Read Jon and Ian's book I am surprised by a few of the things in the sets. Papa-Oom-Mow-Mow in 1977, Celebrate The News in 1971, It's Over Now, I Just Wasn't Made For These Times, and The Night Was So Young on the boxset tour in 1993. Anybody hear these?
I have t got that far in the book, but that really gives me something to look forward to!
That's cool Celebrate the News was performed in concert…I feel like it was performed in a tv appearance with Breakaway.
I wonder who took the small Marilyn vocal on Its Over Now? I feel like I heard that Al performs lead on IJWMFTT.
The only time I've heard of The Night Was So Young performed live was when Brian was doing it at some Pet Sounds shows in early 2000s, when he was doing request per the BlueBoard…not saying they didn't perform it at the mentioned concerts. Btw, if you can get your hands on those records, take a listen, they're such good setlists! I remember Busy Doin Nothin and Melt Away being performed famously!
Logged
To view my video documentation of my Beach Boys collection go to
www.youtube.com/justinplank
"Someone needs to tell Adrian Baker that imitation isn't innovation." -The Real Beach Boy
~post of the century~
"Well, you reached out to me too, David, and I'd be more than happy to fill Bgas's shoes. You don't need him anyway - some of us have the same items in our collections as he does and we're also much better writers. Spoiled brat....."
-Mikie
"in this online beach boy community, I've found that you're either correct or corrected. Which in my mind is all in good fun to show ones knowledge of their favorite band."- punkinhead
Lowbacca
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Posts: 3598
please let me wonder
Re: Songs I didn't know were in the set.
«
Reply #14 on:
August 12, 2013, 07:13:07 AM »
Quote from: punkinhead on August 12, 2013, 07:03:08 AM
That's cool Celebrate the News was performed in concert…I feel like it was performed in a tv appearance with Breakaway.
"Mike Douglas Show", summer 1969.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwE9aY5F4Jw
Logged
HeyJude
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Posts: 10303
Re: Songs I didn't know were in the set.
«
Reply #15 on:
August 12, 2013, 10:26:09 AM »
Quote from: Lowbacca on August 10, 2013, 08:18:33 AM
Quote from: drbeachboy on August 10, 2013, 07:43:22 AM
Quote from: Mike Eder on August 10, 2013, 04:30:37 AM
Read Jon and Ian's book I am surprised by a few of the things in the sets. Papa-Oom-Mow-Mow in 1977, Celebrate The News in 1971, It's Over Now, I Just Wasn't Made For These Times, and The Night Was So Young on the boxset tour in 1993. Anybody hear these?
I attended the Valley Forge Music Fair show in Devon, PA back in 1993 and do not recall any of those three songs performed that day.
To back that up: it's not on the recording (bootleg) of the show, either.
Regarding those songs allegedly performed: Ian's and Jon's book quotes an unnamed "contributor to
Beach Boys Stomp
" who was present at the November 21 show. It's
that
guy who reports a "fabulous Carl lead on 'It's Over Now'" as well as "The Night Was So Young" being played and Al singing "I Just Wasn't Made For These Times".
I think the 11/21 show circulates, and none of those songs are on it. I don't think any of these were ever peformed. Al sang "You Still Believe In Me", maybe they mixed that one up. The other two, I have no idea how they thought of those songs. No evidence from any extant setlists or recordings, including tour rehearsals.
Logged
THE BEACH BOYS OPINION PAGE IS ON FACEBOOK!!!
http://www.facebook.com/beachboysopinion
- Check out the original "BEACH BOYS OPINION PAGE" Blog -
http://beachboysopinion.blogspot.com/
Nicko1234
Guest
Re: Songs I didn't know were in the set.
«
Reply #16 on:
August 12, 2013, 10:54:01 AM »
Quote from: HeyJude on August 12, 2013, 10:26:09 AM
Quote from: Lowbacca on August 10, 2013, 08:18:33 AM
Quote from: drbeachboy on August 10, 2013, 07:43:22 AM
Quote from: Mike Eder on August 10, 2013, 04:30:37 AM
Read Jon and Ian's book I am surprised by a few of the things in the sets. Papa-Oom-Mow-Mow in 1977, Celebrate The News in 1971, It's Over Now, I Just Wasn't Made For These Times, and The Night Was So Young on the boxset tour in 1993. Anybody hear these?
I attended the Valley Forge Music Fair show in Devon, PA back in 1993 and do not recall any of those three songs performed that day.
To back that up: it's not on the recording (bootleg) of the show, either.
Regarding those songs allegedly performed: Ian's and Jon's book quotes an unnamed "contributor to
Beach Boys Stomp
" who was present at the November 21 show. It's
that
guy who reports a "fabulous Carl lead on 'It's Over Now'" as well as "The Night Was So Young" being played and Al singing "I Just Wasn't Made For These Times".
I think the 11/21 show circulates, and none of those songs are on it. I don't think any of these were ever peformed. Al sang "You Still Believe In Me", maybe they mixed that one up. The other two, I have no idea how they thought of those songs. No evidence from any extant setlists or recordings, including tour rehearsals.
It does indeed circulate.
Logged
bgas
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Gender:
Posts: 6372
Oh for the good old days
Re: Songs I didn't know were in the set.
«
Reply #17 on:
August 12, 2013, 10:57:55 AM »
Quote from: Nicko1234 on August 12, 2013, 10:54:01 AM
Quote from: HeyJude on August 12, 2013, 10:26:09 AM
Quote from: Lowbacca on August 10, 2013, 08:18:33 AM
Quote from: drbeachboy on August 10, 2013, 07:43:22 AM
Quote from: Mike Eder on August 10, 2013, 04:30:37 AM
Read Jon and Ian's book I am surprised by a few of the things in the sets. Papa-Oom-Mow-Mow in 1977, Celebrate The News in 1971, It's Over Now, I Just Wasn't Made For These Times, and The Night Was So Young on the boxset tour in 1993. Anybody hear these?
I attended the Valley Forge Music Fair show in Devon, PA back in 1993 and do not recall any of those three songs performed that day.
To back that up: it's not on the recording (bootleg) of the show, either.
Regarding those songs allegedly performed: Ian's and Jon's book quotes an unnamed "contributor to
Beach Boys Stomp
" who was present at the November 21 show. It's
that
guy who reports a "fabulous Carl lead on 'It's Over Now'" as well as "The Night Was So Young" being played and Al singing "I Just Wasn't Made For These Times".
I think the 11/21 show circulates, and none of those songs are on it. I don't think any of these were ever peformed. Al sang "You Still Believe In Me", maybe they mixed that one up. The other two, I have no idea how they thought of those songs. No evidence from any extant setlists or recordings, including tour rehearsals.
It does indeed circulate.
In fact, Eric's setlist archive lists it as the MOST bootlegged of any of the 1993 Unplugged shows:
http://members.tripod.com/~fun_fun_fun/11-21-93.html
Logged
Nothing I post is my opinion, it's all a message from God
Ian
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Posts: 1877
Re: Songs I didn't know were in the set.
«
Reply #18 on:
August 12, 2013, 11:46:55 AM »
We quoted beach boys stom.p on that one
Logged
Ian
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Posts: 1877
Re: Songs I didn't know were in the set.
«
Reply #19 on:
August 12, 2013, 11:57:18 AM »
As far as celebrate the news, the fairfield university review i have states that it was played. It was the first date of the tour and dennis was singing two or three numbers at shows in that period. According to the article he completed I've got a friend that day at the venue. So possibly the plan was to perform celebrate every night but dennis decided he preferred I've got a friend
Logged
petsite
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Gender:
Posts: 770
Re: Songs I didn't know were in the set.
«
Reply #20 on:
August 12, 2013, 08:36:16 PM »
Box set tracks performed at Valley Forge:
01. Heroes And Villains
02. Vegetables
03. Take A Load Off Your Feet
04. Surfer Girl
05. Hushabye
06. Add Some Music To Your Day
07. Disney Girls
08. Their Hearts Were Full Of Spring
09. Wonderful
10. All This Is That
11. Caroline No
12. You Still Believe In Me
13. God Only Knows
14. Sloop John B
Also, the group performed at the Southern Star here in Houston on that tour and I didnt see that mentioned either. They were there on August 5th.
«
Last Edit: August 12, 2013, 08:37:50 PM by petsite
»
Logged
HeyJude
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Posts: 10303
Re: Songs I didn't know were in the set.
«
Reply #21 on:
August 12, 2013, 08:58:42 PM »
Yep, I've definitely heard the Valley Forge show. Up until the surfacing of the 11/26 NYC soundboard, it was the most common and best-sounding recording.
I'm pretty sure the group of "rarities" added during that run of shows late in the year to promote the GV set remained unchanged, with the exception of "Little Saint Nick" being added a few dates in, and it's of course debatable whether that was really part of the "rarities" or just a seasonal thing.
Logged
THE BEACH BOYS OPINION PAGE IS ON FACEBOOK!!!
http://www.facebook.com/beachboysopinion
- Check out the original "BEACH BOYS OPINION PAGE" Blog -
http://beachboysopinion.blogspot.com/
LeeDempsey
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Posts: 749
Avatar: Brian Wilson circa 1957
Re: Songs I didn't know were in the set.
«
Reply #22 on:
August 12, 2013, 09:40:00 PM »
Quote from: Lowbacca on August 10, 2013, 08:18:33 AM
Quote from: drbeachboy on August 10, 2013, 07:43:22 AM
Quote from: Mike Eder on August 10, 2013, 04:30:37 AM
Read Jon and Ian's book I am surprised by a few of the things in the sets. Papa-Oom-Mow-Mow in 1977, Celebrate The News in 1971, It's Over Now, I Just Wasn't Made For These Times, and The Night Was So Young on the boxset tour in 1993. Anybody hear these?
I attended the Valley Forge Music Fair show in Devon, PA back in 1993 and do not recall any of those three songs performed that day.
To back that up: it's not on the recording (bootleg) of the show, either.
Regarding those songs allegedly performed: Ian's and Jon's book quotes an unnamed "contributor to
Beach Boys Stomp
" who was present at the November 21 show. It's
that
guy who reports a "fabulous Carl lead on 'It's Over Now'" as well as "The Night Was So Young" being played and Al singing "I Just Wasn't Made For These Times".
I know where this story originated... I once spent some time with a close associate of Brian's that lived in the Valley Forge area. He was the one that swore they played those three songs, despite audio evidence and accounts of multiple other attendees to the contrary. But his status in the Brian Wilson camp caused his account to be taken as fact and published in several fanzines.
Lee
«
Last Edit: August 12, 2013, 09:47:19 PM by LeeDempsey
»
Logged
Eric Aniversario
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Gender:
Posts: 1847
Keep the Summer Alive!
Re: Songs I didn't know were in the set.
«
Reply #23 on:
August 13, 2013, 12:26:03 AM »
Thanks for clarifying, Lee. I remember reading that and being surprised that I had never heard of that. So now that we know it's false, I'm just wondering why someone around make something up like that...I see absolutely no benefit in it
Logged
STE
Smiley Smile Associate
Online
Posts: 1117
"I'm not on top like I used to be"
Re: Songs I didn't know were in the set.
«
Reply #24 on:
August 13, 2013, 02:09:16 AM »
In the very best case, those songs were maybe played over the PA system before the shows in 1993, if even that.
Logged
Pages:
[
1
]
2
Jump to:
Please select a destination:
-----------------------------
Smiley Smile Stuff
-----------------------------
=> BRIAN WILSON Q & A
=> Welcome to the Smiley Smile board
=> General On Topic Discussions
===> Ask The Honored Guests
===> Smiley Smile Reference Threads
=> Smile Sessions Box Set (2011)
=> The Beach Boys Media
=> Concert Reviews
=> Album, Book and Video Reviews And Discussions
===> 1960's Beach Boys Albums
===> 1970's Beach Boys Albums
===> 1980's Beach Boys Albums
===> 1990's Beach Boys Albums
===> 21st Century Beach Boys Albums
===> Brian Wilson Solo Albums
===> Other Solo Albums
===> Produced by or otherwise related to
===> Tribute Albums
===> DVDs and Videos
===> Book Reviews
===> 'Rank the Tracks'
===> Polls
-----------------------------
Non Smiley Smile Stuff
-----------------------------
=> General Music Discussion
=> General Entertainment Thread
=> Smiley Smilers Who Make Music
=> The Sandbox
Powered by SMF 1.1.21
|
SMF © 2015, Simple Machines
Page created in 0.112 seconds with 20 queries.
Helios Multi
design by
Bloc
Loading...