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« Reply #25 on: April 26, 2011, 05:56:52 PM »

Murry was no Peter Grant I'll say that. Worst manager in the history of music.
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« Reply #26 on: April 27, 2011, 01:24:44 AM »

What made it worse, in Mike's eyes, was that it wasn't merely bandmate and manager. Brian & Murry were immediate family.
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« Reply #27 on: April 27, 2011, 07:33:14 AM »

Murry was no Peter Grant I'll say that. Worst manager in the history of music.

Not to defend Murry but he was old-school in the way he became such a pain in the ass to guys like Nick Venet when he was trying to get the Boys a deal that Capitol eventually caved in, and look at the results.

Plus, how many relatively unknown, young musicians could dictate which studio they wanted to record at apart from the "home" studio at Capitol, and receive a producer credit in their early 20's? In the early 60's, this was very unusual and it was more likely that someone established in the A&R department would make those decisions and get the credits, and also have final say over the direction of the songs - in the BB's, that was Brian even in the early days at Capitol even though Venet was serving as "executive producer" in many ways.

So if Murry's persistence and his habits of bringing bottles of perfume and other knick-knack gifts to Capitol execs to win them over got Brian the kind of clout he had at a young age to do what he did, Murry gets at least a little credit for getting them in the door like that. Then what he may have done later as manager when the money was coming in was bordering on incompetence.
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« Reply #28 on: April 27, 2011, 11:09:06 AM »

Didn't someone make the comment (I think in the late 1960s during the establishment of Brother) that no one else would have gone or went to bat for The Beach Boys like Murry did, and so he was invaluable in that way? I think there's something to that, though it does not of course excuse his money handling and censoriousness and other such things.
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« Reply #29 on: July 02, 2013, 08:22:55 AM »

Speaking of the Radiant Radish... how do you guys like this logo I recreated???

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« Reply #30 on: July 02, 2013, 09:35:42 AM »

While this thread is back, interesting fact:

On the evening of April 6, 1971, famed satirist, adman, voiceover artist, etc etc Stan Freberg was shopping in the Radish when he was called to the store's phone. His maid was on the line to tell him that his numero uno (and only) son was in the process of being born. 

Stan left, got in his XKE, and apparently avoided any unseemly confrontations with a Stingray.

The son, Donavan, tells the story at
http://babyfreberg.blogspot.com/2009/05/radishes-are-good-for-gas.html

Regrettably, by April '71 Brian would not have been at the Radish very often, so I doubt he was the one who answered the phone.  A pity. A photo of Brian in his robe and Stan sporting his signature whiteboy afro of that period would be one to put on the mantelpiece.
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« Reply #31 on: July 02, 2013, 11:34:30 AM »

I'm not sure Brian wasn't there much in April 1971.  As has been discussed before-the Radish did not close in July 70 but remained open much longer.  Indeed-the RS photo shoot-with Brian in a robe at the Radish was shot in June 1971!!! so he was still there-at least for photo ops in June 1971
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« Reply #32 on: July 02, 2013, 11:52:06 AM »

OK, Mike's US hit single credits during the same period as the court case covered (1962-66):

Surfin' -#75
Surfin' Safari - #14
Fun, Fun, Fun - #5
Little Honda (EP) - #65
Please Let Me Wonder - #52
Good Vibrations - #1

Six. Just six.

Post 1966, the US total is just nine, up to and including "Still Cruisin'". The majority of Mike's royalty income comes not from hit singles, but compilations.

Hey Andrew, two years later, thanks for posting this.  Fascinating stuff!
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