I'D LOVE JUST ONCE TO SEE YOU

[Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again]

One question regarding the Wild Honey album: .... WHERE THE HELL IS AL?

[Nicko1234]

One question regarding the Wild Honey album: .... WHERE THE HELL IS AL?

He sang on How She Boogalooed It and has since said how crappy he thinks the song is.

[Ebb and Flow]

One question regarding the Wild Honey album: .... WHERE THE HELL IS AL?

He sang on How She Boogalooed It and has since said how crappy he thinks the song is.

Carl sang the lead on Boogalooed, but it is sped up quite a bit.

[Nicko1234]

Carl sang the lead on Boogalooed, but it is sped up quite a bit.

Yep, apologies. I misremembered the interview in which Al talks about co-writing the song (not singing it) and that it is crappy.

[sockittome]

ILJOTSY (for you abbreviation fanatics) is a great laid back song that fits perfectly on the Wild Honey album.  I wouldn't go as far as to call it a masterpiece, but it is one of the better songs on the album, IMO. 

I really don't think the lyrics are racy at all; I just think some people here are being a bit Beavis and Butthead over it ("heh heh, he said 'PIE'!")  Whatever.....   I suppose it can be whatever you want it to be, but in my world this ain't no "All I Wanna Do"!

If we want to pick this thing apart, what about that hiccup in the wordless vocal part in the middle?  It doesn't really bother me, but I can't help thinking that it's an edit that doesn't quite nail it, and someone decided, "hey let's just leave it in".  Sort of a "GOOD!" moment.  I mean, it doesn't follow any key signature count, whether it be a 2/4 or 3/4 for one measure.  It's like a fraction of a beat.  Thoughts, anyone?

[Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again]

ILJOTSY (for you abbreviation fanatics) is a great laid back song that fits perfectly on the Wild Honey album.  I wouldn't go as far as to call it a masterpiece, but it is one of the better songs on the album, IMO. 

I really don't think the lyrics are racy at all; I just think some people here are being a bit Beavis and Butthead over it ("heh heh, he said 'PIE'!")  Whatever.....   I suppose it can be whatever you want it to be, but in my world this ain't no "All I Wanna Do"!

If we want to pick this thing apart, what about that hiccup in the wordless vocal part in the middle?  It doesn't really bother me, but I can't help thinking that it's an edit that doesn't quite nail it, and someone decided, "hey let's just leave it in".  Sort of a "GOOD!" moment.  I mean, it doesn't follow any key signature count, whether it be a 2/4 or 3/4 for one measure.  It's like a fraction of a beat.  Thoughts, anyone?

What about the singe bass note that comes in hesitantly and then stops right after "It's not too laaaaate....." ..... Sounds like a mistake to me, but still has it's charm

[metal flake paint]

ILJOTSY (for you abbreviation fanatics) is a great laid back song that fits perfectly on the Wild Honey album.  I wouldn't go as far as to call it a masterpiece, but it is one of the better songs on the album, IMO. 

I really don't think the lyrics are racy at all; I just think some people here are being a bit Beavis and Butthead over it ("heh heh, he said 'PIE'!")  Whatever.....   I suppose it can be whatever you want it to be, but in my world this ain't no "All I Wanna Do"!

If we want to pick this thing apart, what about that hiccup in the wordless vocal part in the middle?  It doesn't really bother me, but I can't help thinking that it's an edit that doesn't quite nail it, and someone decided, "hey let's just leave it in".  Sort of a "GOOD!" moment.  I mean, it doesn't follow any key signature count, whether it be a 2/4 or 3/4 for one measure.  It's like a fraction of a beat.  Thoughts, anyone?

What about the singe bass note that comes in hesitantly and then stops right after "It's not too laaaaate....." ..... Sounds like a mistake to me, but still has it's charm

I consider that bass note to be an (unintentional) exclamation mark.

[Matt Bielewicz]

If we want to pick this thing apart, what about that hiccup in the wordless vocal part in the middle?  It doesn't really bother me, but I can't help thinking that it's an edit that doesn't quite nail it, and someone decided, "hey let's just leave it in".  Sort of a "GOOD!" moment.  I mean, it doesn't follow any key signature count, whether it be a 2/4 or 3/4 for one measure.  It's like a fraction of a beat.  Thoughts, anyone?

I think it's an edit, too (it just *sounds* like a tape edit - hard to explain what I mean by that to anyone that doesn't understand what I mean already, but those of you that know what tape edits sound like will understand, and maybe even agree with me...)... but it might be a *deliberate* edit. I mean, there's nothing says you have to have 4/4 bars all the way through a song: Brian has recorded metrically imprecise material all through his career, as many artists did in the 60s and 70s, even mainstream ones (Lennon's songs are riddled with incomplete bars and shifts into weird time signatures, even though he probably wouldn't have understood what a time signature was if it fell on him — now I'm picturing giant cartoon musical notation pursuing an animated Lennon, like the stone letters the Glove keeps trying to destroy in Yellow Submarine). It's generally less common now that computers or click tracks are used, but it's been more common again in recent years than it was in the 80s, as it's got easier to work with computers and funny time signatures since then. Hell, you don't even need a time signature to record in Pro Tools if you don't want one.


So anyway, maybe the BB wanted a bar fraction here, or, perhaps, when they edited it, liked the effect of having an incomplete bar, as you suggest. I like the resulting 'hiccup' - it kind of gives the track a lift, which might have been exactly the intention.

And I reckon the lone bass note referred to above is a mistake they all decided they liked and kept in. But what do we know? Sadly, unless session tapes are lurking out there in Collectorland somewhere, we may never find out. The Smiley Smile, Wild Honey and Friends SOTs were so *frustratingly* incomplete. WhadIwoodena given fer session stuff on some of those tracks: Fall Breaks & Back To Winter, Little Pad, With Me Tonight, Aren't You Glad, Country Air, this one, Wake The World, Little Bird, Busy Doin' Nothing, a proper load of sessions for Time To Get Alone...

Perhaps one day we'll be able to buy this stuff. I got money burnin' a hole in my pocket to do that right here... but I suspect it'll never happen.

[Iron Horse-Apples]

ILJOTSY (for you abbreviation fanatics) is a great laid back song that fits perfectly on the Wild Honey album.  I wouldn't go as far as to call it a masterpiece, but it is one of the better songs on the album, IMO.  

I really don't think the lyrics are racy at all; I just think some people here are being a bit Beavis and Butthead over it ("heh heh, he said 'PIE'!")  Whatever.....   I suppose it can be whatever you want it to be, but in my world this ain't no "All I Wanna Do"!

If we want to pick this thing apart, what about that hiccup in the wordless vocal part in the middle?  It doesn't really bother me, but I can't help thinking that it's an edit that doesn't quite nail it, and someone decided, "hey let's just leave it in".  Sort of a "GOOD!" moment.  I mean, it doesn't follow any key signature count, whether it be a 2/4 or 3/4 for one measure.  It's like a fraction of a beat.  Thoughts, anyone?

I don't think it was a mistake, and it does follow a time signature, it's a 2/4 bar. Brian does this a lot in the next album, Friends. Take a listen to When A Man Needs A Woman. He was just mucking about with time signatures, I think it sounds great.

[Matt Bielewicz]

Right, (Stephen), absolutely - When A Man Needs A Woman is a GREAT example of a BW tune that's all over the map, metrically speaking. I could have sorely done with that example in the middle of my last post!

And it sounds great - it's musically and rhythmically complex, but only if you stop to analyse how the bar lines fall. It manages to sound natural and not over-complicated if you just listen, and the skill of it only becomes apparent when you put your music teacher's hat on...

Looks and sounds simple - but isn't. Reveals more of its majesty the more you look into it. Neat trick if you can get your art to be like that. I shouldn't think Brian stopped to consider any of this for a moment, I bet he just did it naturally — but that doesn't diminish the achievement.

[Micha]

ILJOTSY (for you abbreviation fanatics) is a great laid back song that fits perfectly on the Wild Honey album.  I wouldn't go as far as to call it a masterpiece, but it is one of the better songs on the album, IMO.  

I really don't think the lyrics are racy at all; I just think some people here are being a bit Beavis and Butthead over it ("heh heh, he said 'PIE'!")  Whatever.....   I suppose it can be whatever you want it to be, but in my world this ain't no "All I Wanna Do"!

If we want to pick this thing apart, what about that hiccup in the wordless vocal part in the middle?  It doesn't really bother me, but I can't help thinking that it's an edit that doesn't quite nail it, and someone decided, "hey let's just leave it in".  Sort of a "GOOD!" moment.  I mean, it doesn't follow any key signature count, whether it be a 2/4 or 3/4 for one measure.  It's like a fraction of a beat.  Thoughts, anyone?

I don't think it was a mistake, and it does follow a time signature, it's a 2/4 bar.

That's right. Maybe there was a flub in the missing half bar, so they just edited that half bar out instead of a whole bar? Today they'd probably just copy and paste the good half bar, if that happened.

[DonnyL]

it's a tape edit ... 'Transcedental Meditation' on Friends has a similar edit. I doubt it was a deliberate time change, but sometimes it's either leave in the little flaw or re-record/re-mix the thing. I think these edits have their charms!