50th Anniversary live double CD up for pre-order on Amazon

[AndrewHickey]

Anyone willing to bet that they will make this 2-CD set 50 tracks (to tie in with the fact that it was the C50 tour)?  We'd still be missing about 11 or 12 songs from all the songs they did on the tour, but that should give us the vast majority of the material.

While that would be great, I think a few threads have touched on the cost per song on a live album. I think Andrew Hickey is the go to guy for info on this. Andrew....?

I'm not Andrew, but I believe those discussions covered costs for a live video performance. It was mentioned that costs for audio only are considerably lower.

That's true. There's a big, big difference between the cost of putting a song on a DVD and of putting it on a CD. That's partly because the DVD cost is an upfront payment, while the CD cost is per copy sold, and partly because there's a legal upper limit on how much the publishers can charge for songs on a CD (I think something like 10 cents per copy sold. Something like that.)

Also, the publishing company for most of the Beach Boys' music is, as of this year, a division of the same company that owns Capitol, so the cost would only be within the business (though different organisations within it so there would still be a cost to Capitol itself), while the live DVDs have been made by a company that isn't part of UMG.

A 50-song CD would still cost more than a 40-song one, of course, but there's much, much less reason to think that won't happen than that a 50-song DVD won't.

[Pretty Funky]

Thanks Andrew. While you were replying, I searched for some info from a previous thread where you go into some detail.

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,14450.msg337179.html#msg337179

Scroll down the page if anyone is interested.

[Heysaboda]

http://www.amazon.com/Live-The-50th-Anniversary-Tour/dp/B00C7O8TSM
With a release date of May 21. Same release date is showing on Amazon UK, too.
Might this be one reason for the box set delay, to allow the live album to come out for the summer, with the box set being aimed at the Christmas market and coming out in the autumn? It'd make sense...

Thanks Andrew.

P.S.

I am greatly enjoying your excellent book on the Beach Boys' CD!  Well done!

[SurfRiderHawaii]

Brian apparently has been mixing the concert CD with Joe Thomas, according to Wikipedia. 

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Thomas_(producer)#section_1

[The Heartical Don]

Brian apparently has been mixing the concert CD with Joe Thomas, according to Wikipedia. 

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Thomas_(producer)#section_1

Hm. So Buddy Love will co-determine the sound of the set. The Women's Pet, The Fans' Regret? We'll see...

[Rocker]

The official trailer, just posted on Facebook:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wqvf7QFl7eI&feature=youtu.be

[Freddie French-Pounce]

The official trailer, just posted on Facebook:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wqvf7QFl7eI&feature=youtu.be

I get hints of Auto, and is that mike's DIA 2012 vocal? either way, it's not sounding too bad if they're the mixes we're getting.

[Justin]

Sounds alright!

Sure brings back memories...this time last year we were right at the tip of the beginning of the tour.   Some great days then!

[Rocker]

Sounds alright!

Sure brings back memories...this time last year we were right at the tip of the beginning of the tour.   

And none of us thought that it would get even better. But it got right up to the last shows! Job well done!

[Nicko1234]

It sounds pretty fake and sterile to me but maybe the CD itself will sound very different.

[Freddie French-Pounce]

It sounds pretty fake and sterile to me but maybe the CD itself will sound very different.

Yeah, that's what I wondered. It lacks energy.

[Lowbacca]

The official trailer, just posted on Facebook:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wqvf7QFl7eI&feature=youtu.be

"We've reunited... this one final time." I never thought I'd hear this again in a BBs promo. Brings warm feelings to my heart.

[EgoHanger1966]

I hear double-tracking at the very least. To be expected...

[Rocker]

I hear double-tracking at the very least.

That's because the lead vocals were mostly doubled live by Foskett (many of Brian's, Al on WIBN,...)

[Freddie French-Pounce]

I hear double-tracking at the very least.

That's because the lead vocals were mostly doubled live by Foskett (many of Brian's, Al on WIBN,...)

Otherwise that's terrible Double-Tracking!

[Shady]

The official trailer, just posted on Facebook:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wqvf7QFl7eI&feature=youtu.be

Sounds pretty terrible..

I'll buy it anyway as a memento

[Lowbacca]

I guess it will pretty much sound like the DVD. I don't expect another The Beach Boys in Concert or Live in London. ^^

I'll give it a listen elsewhere before buying it, that's for sure.

[Justin]

I actually hear the grain in Mike's voice on DIA...couldn't say I heard anything that remotely human on the DVD.  I'm keeping optimistic.  Still though...at least we have a 2 disc set here. 

[JohnMill]

Sounds alright!

Sure brings back memories...this time last year we were right at the tip of the beginning of the tour.  

And none of us thought that it would get even better. But it got right up to the last shows! Job well done!

...and then it fell right off a cliff.

Anyhow the double cd.  As Shady said, I'm picking it up as a memento.  The Beach Boys are always great music to blast out of your car speakers during the warm summer months and this will be no exception.  I will admit though I do feel somewhat dubious about the entire matter although not enough for me to not pick this set (or the upcoming MIC set) up as long as they deliver within the range of expectations which this set certainly does.

[the professor]

Listen lads: what about the video footage for this ad for the live album; it itself looks great--better than the released DVD, no? Someone filmed that very well and has plenty of it; surely someone will produce a longer DVD--look at them dancing, kicking the beach ball, etc--great stuff.  Just you wait. (And I don't mean those nimrods supposedly producing a crowd-generated whatever. . . .).

[AndrewHickey]

Listen lads: what about the video footage for this ad for the live album; it itself looks great--better than the released DVD, no? Someone filmed that very well and has plenty of it; surely someone will produce a longer DVD--look at them dancing, kicking the beach ball, etc--great stuff.  Just you wait. (And I don't mean those nimrods supposedly producing a crowd-generated whatever. . . .).

Those people *are* the people who filmed that footage -- the same people did all the filming for the tour, and they're the people doing the crowd-funded DVD.

As for the audio on that trailer, it's very odd -- half the leads sound double-tracked, but then Mike on Good Vibrations sounds far hoarser than he did at most of the shows... of course, it's impossible to tell from a trailer like that.

[The Shift]

Most of the trailer is anyway cobed together from stuff we've already seen. Live shots excepted… waste of space really.

[STE]

I have the feeling Alan Boyd edited the promo  

Pause at
http://youtu.be/Wqvf7QFl7eI?t=34s

and spot the known faces

 

[Freddie French-Pounce]

I have the feeling Alan Boyd edited the promo  

Pause at
http://youtu.be/Wqvf7QFl7eI?t=34s

and spot the known faces

 

how you spotted taht i will, never know. Oh the nerdiness among us

[the professor]

If it is those nimrods,  Andrew, it's much better than any of the hints and samples they themselves have produced. I  could watch 3 hours of a show with these kinds of shots.  Whoever is the agent behind this, I hope they will produce something of this quality and intensity for the full version DVD. And yes, I like saying "nimrod."