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« on: December 17, 2012, 04:38:37 AM »

Al always says that the ending of 'Break Away' was a wasted opportunity. I don't like the dogs and train at the end of Caroline No: there needed to be a longer gap after the fade.

Any other posters have problems with the last parts of a BB song?
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« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2012, 06:07:10 AM »

I guess I don't understand this thread.
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« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2012, 07:00:20 AM »

Man, this is getting specific. Well, I suppose the ending of Heroes and Villains single version could be better. Instead of going away with a bang, it just drags itself away.
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« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2012, 08:12:13 AM »

No. Enough lame negative threads.
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« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2012, 08:28:04 AM »

How about "just okay songs which have parts that are not quite as okay, but still quite okay anyway"?
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« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2012, 10:13:51 AM »

The endings and tags of Beach Boys songs are almost always the best parts.
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« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2012, 12:31:38 PM »

Al always says that the ending of 'Break Away' was a wasted opportunity. I don't like the dogs and train at the end of Caroline No: there needed to be a longer gap after the fade.

Any other posters have problems with the last parts of a BB song?

Psst....You're allowed to listen to the single version of Caroline, No. There are no dogs and train.

The ending of Break Away is great.
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« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2012, 12:37:35 PM »

I could live without the fade out / in tricks in Help Me, Ronda.
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« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2012, 01:56:31 PM »

I was never one for the last section of "I'm Waiting For the Day" after

"I'm Waiting for the Day
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but I could never imagine listening to Breakaway without its ending. That's my favorite part of the song.

On a more positive note, I think the tag to "Wouldn't It Be Nice" is really underrated.
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« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2012, 02:30:11 PM »

Never understood Al's comment regarding Breakaway, the ending is the best part! The 'oh boy you jump for joy' is incredible and I love the weird 'morse code' sounding instrument, what is that? (paging aeijtzsche).

I kinda think this thread should be the other way round, that is 'songs you don't particularly like which have end sections you do like' - in the is category would go Tears In The Morning, Bluebirds Over The Mountain and Don't Go Near The Water.
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« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2012, 03:27:42 PM »

Al always says that the ending of 'Break Away' was a wasted opportunity. I don't like the dogs and train at the end of Caroline No: there needed to be a longer gap after the fade.

Any other posters have problems with the last parts of a BB song?
What's wrong with the ending of Breakaway? I've heard Bruce and/or Al say something along the lines of a wasted opportunity about the ending of Breakaway. I know on Brian's demo just has him singing "doooo do do do do doo"...but there's other vocals that cover that.
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« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2012, 03:38:33 PM »

On Elvis Presley's "Suspicious Minds", there's about three (or more?) different endings.

The first two disappoint. One just goes on like the rest of the song, fades out...boring. The other fades in and out a la The Beach Boys' Today "Help Me Rhonda".

The third one is the best. The song really gets going and the horns come in strong, no fading in and out. To me, that's the most satisfying one.
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« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2012, 04:10:47 PM »

Did Mike write the line "feel the vibrations" on the tag of Breakaway? I'm guessing yes.

that, to me is the big letdown of an otherwise amazing tune. Well that, and the fact that they didn't keep Brian's awesome lead after I heard the demo version.

Is this the first instance of Mike's horrible practice of referencing a former hit in the band's catalog, in an attempt to give the song more hit potential??? (I'm assuming that's why he does it )

'Do It Again' seems to be his first attempt at recapturing former glories, but Breakaway is probably the first one to mention another song specifically.

How many lyrics has Mike written that namedrop other Beach Boy songs?




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« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2012, 04:43:45 PM »

Do It Again does mention "California Girls"...


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« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2012, 05:07:26 PM »

This thread sucks so I'm going to do the opposite of the OP:

"Sweet Mountain" is kind of a snooze-fest until the last bit where Brian comes in and the song finally comes to life.
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« Reply #15 on: December 17, 2012, 05:17:42 PM »

This thread sucks so I'm going to do the opposite of the OP:

"Sweet Mountain" is kind of a snooze-fest until the last bit where Brian comes in and the song finally comes to life.

And you can hear that his voice has deteriorated. Grin
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« Reply #16 on: December 17, 2012, 06:29:33 PM »

I like his voice in that song. If I could snort hog rails and still sound that good, sign me up!
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« Reply #17 on: December 17, 2012, 07:20:35 PM »

Do It Again does mention "California Girls"...




right you are!

damn you Mike Love!
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« Reply #18 on: December 17, 2012, 07:21:50 PM »

I really love "I Wanna Pick You Up" until the ending bit if that counts. On the reverse side I don't much care for "Endless Harmony" until the 2nd half.
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« Reply #19 on: December 17, 2012, 08:07:19 PM »

I go back and forth liking/disliking the tag to "Airplane" (I can't wait...). Some days I think it ruins the great "down, down, on the ground..." chord section. Other days I think tacking a call and response sing-a-long to a ballad is the more subversive thing to do this side of subtitling it "And then We'll Have World Peace."

Some tags I love: the PSS alternative version of "God Only Knows" with the piling on of harmonies. I wish it had been the final version.

"At My Window"

Brian's end part on "Had to Phone Ya."

Also, "From There to Back Again" ---maybe my fave ever tag.
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« Reply #20 on: December 17, 2012, 08:42:53 PM »

On Elvis Presley's "Suspicious Minds", there's about three (or more?) different endings.

The first two disappoint. One just goes on like the rest of the song, fades out...boring. The other fades in and out a la The Beach Boys' Today "Help Me Rhonda".

The third one is the best. The song really gets going and the horns come in strong, no fading in and out. To me, that's the most satisfying one.

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The endings to "Fun Fun Fun (album version)" and "California Girls" are frustratingly short. Kirk mentioned a great one - "Had To Phone Ya". Brian obliterates it. "Peggy Sue" (with Al's best lead vocal EVER) comes to a screeching halt. "Sea Cruise" drags on a verse too long at the end. "Shortenin' Bread"'s ending is boring. That's about it. Brian has a pretty good track record with song endings.
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« Reply #21 on: December 17, 2012, 09:26:49 PM »

Did Mike write the line "feel the vibrations" on the tag of Breakaway? I'm guessing yes.

'Do It Again' seems to be his first attempt at recapturing former glories, but Breakaway is probably the first one to mention another song specifically.

How many lyrics has Mike written that namedrop other Beach Boy songs?






Funny, I don't recall a BBs hit called "Feel the Vibrations".
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« Reply #22 on: December 17, 2012, 10:12:28 PM »

Do It Again does mention "California Girls"...

...and "The Lonely Sea."
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« Reply #23 on: December 18, 2012, 02:36:31 PM »

Do It Again does mention "California Girls"...



and Lonely Sea


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« Reply #24 on: December 18, 2012, 02:55:44 PM »


Funny, I don't recall a BBs hit called "Feel the Vibrations".

funny i don't recall saying there was one.


but seriously how many other BBs songs has Mike Love referenced in his lyrics. There must be at least a half-dozen in "Brian's Back" alone. "Spring Vacation" is a doozy as well. He even put the word "Kokomo" in another song title. What a guy.
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