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« Reply #25 on: October 05, 2012, 09:50:40 AM »

Agreed, it should have come out earlier but probably with the demands of being on the road there wasn't time at that time.
And, as to how it presents the individual here, perhaps sometimes with age comes insight and better perspective.

Why should Mike have to explain it at all, he told the truth. I think what you guys meant to say is why have Brian and Al NOT explained this, why did they allow and even encourage the untruth to stand?
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« Reply #26 on: October 05, 2012, 09:52:57 AM »

Nice reflection by Mike.   

But I still think, if he is sincere about how great Al Jardine is, he would try to facilitate a way to  include Al  in the Bruce/Mike lineup.    That has been the real sticking point for me, and I think a lot of other fans, for the past 14 years.
Brian and David have rarely  been with the touring act since the 60's. 

Would Al want that, though? I think there might be an equal reluctance from both Al and Mike to share that spotlight. And while Mike is doing his part of the show, where would that leave Al's original songs which he wants to play live for his fans? It may be too much of a sacrifice for both of them to play the smaller theaters and have to share the billing with different goals for the show.
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« Reply #27 on: October 05, 2012, 09:54:26 AM »

Great piece by Mike, however I really think if he and Al have buried the hatchet then Al should be reinstated as a permanent Beach Boy ASAP.
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« Reply #28 on: October 05, 2012, 10:02:25 AM »

Be fascinating to see how this is received in the Land of Bloo.


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« Reply #29 on: October 05, 2012, 10:03:13 AM »

Agreed, it should have come out earlier but probably with the demands of being on the road there wasn't time at that time.
And, as to how it presents the individual here, perhaps sometimes with age comes insight and better perspective.

Why should Mike have to explain it at all, he told the truth. I think what you guys meant to say is why have Brian and Al NOT explained this, why did they allow and even encourage the untruth to stand?

Because they want the reunion lineup to persist. Even in this lovely piece, Mike doesn't quite commit to that.
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« Reply #30 on: October 05, 2012, 10:08:38 AM »

This was a fantastic read.  Good for Mike for writing that.  It needed to be said.  It would've been a little easier to swallow if the first press release announcing the end of the reunion was delivered in this same tone---then we wouldn't have had such a firestorm of crap rain on him.  But anyway, hopefully the storms have passed and we can move on.

Great pic of the Loves:
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« Reply #31 on: October 05, 2012, 10:12:49 AM »

Even the most hardend Mike critic should give the Devil his due. Check out in the accompanying photo the paradise Mike calls home that he gets to share with his beautiful wife - yet the guy chooses to go out 180 days of the year at 71 to perform Beach Boys songs to their fans. That's dedication and showing a deep love and respect for the music they all helped create.
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« Reply #32 on: October 05, 2012, 10:14:15 AM »

Oh c'mon, let's not go that far. It's also ego gratification, excitement, $$$, recognition, and something to do. It isn't a damn public service he does out of the goodness of his heart!
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« Reply #33 on: October 05, 2012, 10:15:42 AM »

Agreed, it should have come out earlier but probably with the demands of being on the road there wasn't time at that time.
And, as to how it presents the individual here, perhaps sometimes with age comes insight and better perspective.

Why should Mike have to explain it at all, he told the truth. I think what you guys meant to say is why have Brian and Al NOT explained this, why did they allow and even encourage the untruth to stand?

Because they want the reunion lineup to persist. Even in this lovely piece, Mike doesn't quite commit to that.

What does that have to do with allowing an untruth to stand?
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« Reply #34 on: October 05, 2012, 10:18:07 AM »

Even the most hardend Mike critic should give the Devil his due. Check out in the accompanying photo the paradise Mike calls home that he gets to share with his beautiful wife - yet the guy chooses to go out 180 days of the year at 71 to perform Beach Boys songs to their fans. That's dedication and showing a deep love and respect for the music they all helped create.

Time to bust another myth - The Beach Boys, individually or solo, have never, ever played 180 shows a year. Maybe 135, tops, and that was several decades ago.
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« Reply #35 on: October 05, 2012, 10:18:30 AM »

Agreed, it should have come out earlier but probably with the demands of being on the road there wasn't time at that time.
And, as to how it presents the individual here, perhaps sometimes with age comes insight and better perspective.

Why should Mike have to explain it at all, he told the truth. I think what you guys meant to say is why have Brian and Al NOT explained this, why did they allow and even encourage the untruth to stand?

Because they want the reunion lineup to persist. Even in this lovely piece, Mike doesn't quite commit to that.

What does that have to do with allowing an untruth to stand?

Because the untruth furthers their agenda. It was an unexpected opportunity to make their case in public.
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« Reply #36 on: October 05, 2012, 10:20:58 AM »

Even the most hardend Mike critic should give the Devil his due. Check out in the accompanying photo the paradise Mike calls home that he gets to share with his beautiful wife - yet the guy chooses to go out 180 days of the year at 71 to perform Beach Boys songs to their fans. That's dedication and showing a deep love and respect for the music they all helped create.

Time to bust another myth - The Beach Boys, individually or solo, have never, ever played 180 shows a year. Maybe 135, tops, and that was several decades ago.

Thanks, AGD. Not even Dylan manages those kinds of numbers these days.
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« Reply #37 on: October 05, 2012, 10:23:10 AM »

You're saying they put an agenda ahead of the truth? So why are we not pitching a bitch about that?
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« Reply #38 on: October 05, 2012, 10:23:33 AM »

I think Mike listened to much of our work here in composing this lovely piece.  The only unanswered question for me (and the professor is quite seriously moved and gratified by this excellent essay my Mike, whom I love) is the exact future: Mike mentioned no more full-band shows and did not specify that the album is a BB album.

thoughts on this?

But this is a major development today, and it will be the foundation of the new reunion if I am correct.
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« Reply #39 on: October 05, 2012, 10:24:04 AM »

Oh c'mon, let's not go that far. It's also ego gratification, excitement, $$$, recognition, and something to do. It isn't a damn public service he does out of the goodness of his heart!

I have no doubt that all the above are deciding factors in Mike doing what he does - it still doesn't make his dedication and commitment any less noteworthy.
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« Reply #40 on: October 05, 2012, 10:26:48 AM »

Revisional bullsh*t that's what it is. "With it, I've felt a great responsibility to uphold, honor and further our legacy." Once again, he's talking out of his hat. Let's see, he let Al go years ago, an original member with the best voice in the group-that certainly upholds the legacy of the group, especially to the fans, but it's honorable to have imposters sing those songs in place of Al or David. He tours, because of some legal agreement, as The Beach Boys which is an out and out lie. He acts like a complete baboon on stage, and relishes in suing bandmates and right up there is his constant self congratulatory attitude. Too little too late Myke-you worked hard over the years to build your reputation as a complete hypocritical schmuck-why don't you go home and buy your kid an ice cream cone instead of jamming more money in your wallet.
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« Reply #41 on: October 05, 2012, 10:29:00 AM »

OSD, remember: Mike can no more let Al go from the Beach Boys then Al can let Mike or Brian go from the Beach Boys.
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« Reply #42 on: October 05, 2012, 10:29:37 AM »

I think Mike listened to much of our work here in composing this lovely piece.  The only unanswered question for me (and the professor is quite seriously moved and gratified by this excellent essay my Mike, whom I love) is the exact future: Mike mentioned no more full-band shows and did not specify that the album is a BB album.

thoughts on this?

But this is a major development today, and it will be the foundation of the new reunion if I am correct.

I agree with the professor.  But while I believe this piece does a fantastic job for putting out fires, I don't think it'd be the best place to also drop hints on future plans when they are currently uncertain.  The cherry on top would've been, yes, saying that we should expect more reunion projects in the future--but why say something that he doesn't know for sure will be delivered on?  Mike seems to be more sure when contracts have been signed and set, rather than openly speculating with his fans.  
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« Reply #43 on: October 05, 2012, 10:30:34 AM »

did not specify that the album is a BB album.

thoughts on this?

Has he actually been quoted as saying he would love to work on this proposed rock n roll album that Brian seems to want to do? The biggest issue I am having with the collective BBs at the moment is the uncertainty about this proposed next project. It'd be nice if it could be a new BBs album, but I kinda get the feeling Brian is just going to continue as before churning out solo albums until he has no energy left.
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« Reply #44 on: October 05, 2012, 10:30:55 AM »

The deification of Mike Love continues.....

This article reeks of ghost writing, Mike would never have time to write something like this while touring all the time.
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« Reply #45 on: October 05, 2012, 10:33:32 AM »

This was a fantastic read.  Good for Mike for writing that.  It needed to be said.  It would've been a little easier to swallow if the first press release announcing the end of the reunion was delivered in this same tone---then we wouldn't have had such a firestorm of crap rain on him.  But anyway, hopefully the storms have passed and we can move on.

Great pic of the Loves:


As we learned from the Howard Stern interview, Mike is an ass man..

Looking at that he must be a very happy man  Smokin
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« Reply #46 on: October 05, 2012, 10:35:31 AM »

Be fascinating to see how this is received in the Land of Bloo.


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As expected, one of the leading Brianistas has elected not to understand on purpose. Truly, you can't make someone understand something they don't want to.

The Bloo board is a Strange World after all.  I don't even go there any more.
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« Reply #47 on: October 05, 2012, 10:35:45 AM »

The deification of Mike Love continues.....

This article reeks of ghost writing, Mike would never have time to write something like this while touring all the time.

During the 10-hour flight across Atlantic:

1. Read recent 'sacking' articles...

2. Pitch a small fit...

3. Sit down with your publicist and draft a response...

4. Approve publicists polished version of what you dictated to him.

Admit it, you're a closet Blooie, aren't you ?  Cheesy
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« Reply #48 on: October 05, 2012, 10:38:58 AM »

The deification of Mike Love continues.....

This article reeks of ghost writing, Mike would never have time to write something like this while touring all the time.

..... and just in from Area 51..........................  Evil
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« Reply #49 on: October 05, 2012, 10:42:18 AM »

It's outrageous that posters on brianwilson.com are Brianistas, I tell you! I would think they would be 100% supportive of Mike Love-based schemes that leave their hero disappointed.

I say we raise a far more militant Al Jardine faction to balance out the sides... Jardinista sounds a lot more dangerous, anyway.
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