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« Reply #50 on: November 06, 2012, 04:52:02 PM »

The entire DVD just consists of close-ups of Bruce's knees.

Sweet Moses!

I'm currently drafting my 1 star review.

I hear there are also a couple of 'up-shorts' shots. Very tastefully done, though.
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« Reply #51 on: November 06, 2012, 05:23:53 PM »

The entire DVD just consists of close-ups of Bruce's knees.

Sweet Moses!

I'm currently drafting my 1 star review.

I hear there are also a couple of 'up-shorts' shots. Very tastefully done, though.

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« Reply #52 on: November 06, 2012, 05:46:07 PM »

I'm glad to see people on amazon bitching. Maybe someone at Capitol will see that there is a demand for a full show (hopefully the RAH show) and at least consider it as a release in the future. I'm not going to pretend to know how the financial side of these things work but I think the full RAH show would be a nice bonus in the upcoming box set. What a better way to end a box set celebrating 50 years than one of the final shows where all 61 songs of the tour were performed.

More likely they'll think "Hardcore Beach Boys fans will deliberately sabotage sales of any live DVD we put out because of their overwhelming, unbelievable sense of entitlement. Better not bother with any more releases then."

I understand that but there is a shot that they'll think, "Damn. Fans aren't willing to praise and buy any product we put out with the Beach Boys name".  If there is nothing by 5 star reviews saying that "we're lucky to have anything", "editing may be bad but it's better than nothing", etc... then there is no reason for them to  put time or effort into releasing an entire show. They'll think fans are happy and that they've done their job.

I can understand what you have said about the financial side of releasing a full show but what's the point of paying crews to film numerous shows and then release a 21 song dvd? That seems like a waste of money and opportunity to me.
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« Reply #53 on: November 06, 2012, 06:12:05 PM »

I'm glad to see people on amazon bitching. Maybe someone at Capitol will see that there is a demand for a full show (hopefully the RAH show) and at least consider it as a release in the future. I'm not going to pretend to know how the financial side of these things work but I think the full RAH show would be a nice bonus in the upcoming box set. What a better way to end a box set celebrating 50 years than one of the final shows where all 61 songs of the tour were performed.

More likely they'll think "Hardcore Beach Boys fans will deliberately sabotage sales of any live DVD we put out because of their overwhelming, unbelievable sense of entitlement. Better not bother with any more releases then."

I understand that but there is a shot that they'll think, "Damn. Fans aren't willing to praise and buy any product we put out with the Beach Boys name".  If there is nothing by 5 star reviews saying that "we're lucky to have anything", "editing may be bad but it's better than nothing", etc... then there is no reason for them to  put time or effort into releasing an entire show. They'll think fans are happy and that they've done their job.

I can understand what you have said about the financial side of releasing a full show but what's the point of paying crews to film numerous shows and then release a 21 song dvd? That seems like a waste of money and opportunity to me.

Your first point would make sense *if the people posting those reviews had actually seen the DVD*. If a shoddy product is out, giving it bad reviews and killing its sales makes sense and would have that effect. If a bunch of petulant, whining babies throw their dummies out of the pram and do their damnedest to make sure that the DVD sells no copies before they've even seen it, then what that actually says is that it's impossible to please these people.

As for "what's the point of paying crews to film numerous shows and then release a 21 song dvd?" -- the clue is in the bit "and then release a 21-song DVD". You know, like many, many other live DVDs that people with a sense of proportion buy all the time.

Twenty-one songs simply isn't an unusually small number of songs to put on a DVD, and I don't see what possible good can come of people having a screaming hissy-fit because a DVD company has released a DVD with as many songs as can economically be put on, because they're not used to the idea that the world doesn't revolve around them.

We don't have a choice of this DVD or a sixty-one song one, we have a choice of this DVD or no DVD.
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« Reply #54 on: November 06, 2012, 06:33:41 PM »

One of the reviewers claims to have seen it so that is at least one review that is justified.

I probably could have worded my statement better about the 21 songs. I don't see the point in filming numerous shows to release a 21 song dvd taken from one show. I can understand filming 5 shows and using the best performances from the five but these are all taken from one show (I could be wrong, just going from what I've read here).

I can completely understand you being annoyed with whining people that act entitled to things. It is annoying. BUT.. if people wouldn't have bitched about the stereo/mono cds only being released in Japan, they wouldn't have gotten a world wide release. So as annoying as it is, it can work in your favor sometimes. I'm sure some people are just making a statement in the hopes that they'll CONSIDER the idea of releasing a full show.
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« Reply #55 on: November 06, 2012, 11:33:57 PM »

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« Reply #56 on: November 07, 2012, 04:22:51 AM »



The Tommy & Quadrophenia set is a *three DVD set* and sells for *three times as much* as the Beach Boys DVD -- even though it's been out seven years. If you sell a DVD for three times as much, you can afford to put three times as many songs on.

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I'd pay £20 or even £25 (~$35) for a full concert Blu-Ray.
 
I see no point whatsoever in paying a budget price for a third of a concert. Not in 2012. Back in 1982 when it was all you could get, yes...not now.
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