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« on: August 01, 2012, 10:26:02 AM »

I'm sure all of us have heard many, many times the infamous "Help Me, Rhonda" session...but does any audio exist of the "I Get Around" session at which Brian fired Murry?  There was an actual physical confrontation involved with that one, correct (Brian shoving his dad into a wall)??
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« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2012, 12:30:38 PM »

I'm sure all of us have heard many, many times the infamous "Help Me, Rhonda" session...but does any audio exist of the "I Get Around" session at which Brian fired Murry?  There was an actual physical confrontation involved with that one, correct (Brian shoving his dad into a wall)??

I don't know for certain, but I suspect the tape machine was not running during the argument. The reason the "Help Me, Rhonda" session tape exists is it was agreed to ahead of time to keep the tape rolling to capture some of Murry's BS for posterity!
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« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2012, 12:44:01 PM »

I heard Brian presented it to him in performance, with he and the guys singing, "Fired-fired, fuckin' fired - you're fuckin' fired! Get the f*** out, Murry, you're fuckin' fired!" instead of the "Round-round, get around" part. That's class.
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« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2012, 01:46:08 PM »

I asked mostly out of curiosity...and I almost don't know if I'd actually want to hear how that went down.  The "Rhonda" tape is disturbing enough...but at least it didn't involve any violence.  From all the stories I've read...Brian actually shoved Murry into a wall.  I can imagine it was a scary episode.
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« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2012, 01:48:33 PM »

I heard Brian presented it to him in performance, with he and the guys singing, "Fired-fired, f***in' fired - you're f***in' fired! Get the f*** out, Murry, you're f***in' fired!" instead of the "Round-round, get around" part. That's class.

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« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2012, 08:37:12 AM »

I heard Brian presented it to him in performance, with he and the guys singing, "Fired-fired, f***in' fired - you're f***in' fired! Get the f*** out, Murry, you're f***in' fired!" instead of the "Round-round, get around" part. That's class.

Well, he told them to sing from their hearts, didn't he?
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« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2012, 09:16:43 AM »

I heard Brian presented it to him in performance, with he and the guys singing, "Fired-fired, f***in' fired - you're f***in' fired! Get the f*** out, Murry, you're f***in' fired!" instead of the "Round-round, get around" part. That's class.

Classic.  LOL
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« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2012, 10:56:01 AM »

I heard Brian presented it to him in performance, with he and the guys singing, "Fired-fired, f***in' fired - you're f***in' fired! Get the f*** out, Murry, you're f***in' fired!" instead of the "Round-round, get around" part. That's class.

Well, he told them to sing from their hearts, didn't he?

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« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2012, 12:18:46 PM »

From what I understand, running a second deck was pretty standard at the time, not so much to capture Murry's, uhh...Murriness, but as a safety or something.

FWIW, the Beatles obviously did the same thing, which explains why b00tl3gs have multiple takes of vocal overdubs.
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« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2012, 10:19:05 PM »

Question about the 'Help Me Rhonda' sessions: When did that first come out? Was it a boot first? I know it was on the EH doc, so it must be official now? I have a 2cd set somewhere with this on it, as well as H&V sessions and Party out takes. Is this a boot I own or an official release?
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« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2012, 09:03:25 AM »

Question about the 'Help Me Rhonda' sessions: When did that first come out? Was it a boot first? I know it was on the EH doc, so it must be official now? I have a 2cd set somewhere with this on it, as well as H&V sessions and Party out takes. Is this a boot I own or an official release?

Good question.  I've never seen a legit release...but I've seen it booted many times.  It's a complete head trip...kind of like listening to a train wreck.  "Sing it real sexy...'Help me, Rhooonnda'"...
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« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2012, 09:10:08 AM »

Question about the 'Help Me Rhonda' sessions: When did that first come out? Was it a boot first? I know it was on the EH doc, so it must be official now? I have a 2cd set somewhere with this on it, as well as H&V sessions and Party out takes. Is this a boot I own or an official release?

That is the bootleg Time To Get Alone.
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« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2012, 12:11:58 PM »

Question about the 'Help Me Rhonda' sessions: When did that first come out? Was it a boot first? I know it was on the EH doc, so it must be official now? I have a 2cd set somewhere with this on it, as well as H&V sessions and Party out takes. Is this a boot I own or an official release?

That is the bootleg Time To Get Alone.

That's right. I have it buried somewhere. I'll have to pull that out again.
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« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2012, 12:34:06 PM »

There's also "Lego My Ego" or some other such title bootleg that it's on.  I have no idea how many discs that one is since I only had it in MP3 form (and lost it).  It was a stereo deck that was the second tape deck (as AGD corrected me). 

I guess that makes sense to have a background taping because it's similar to film companies taking videos and pictures during a film shoot for purposes of continuity/keeping track of where everything is.  It also made it possible to record over and reuse the more expensive multi-track tapes, since they had a stereo reference tape if they wanted to go back to hear what they did before.  Another famous example of studio chatter captured by such a recorder is "The Troggs Tapes," which partly inspired Spinal Tap with it's ridiculousness.
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