Best and worst Beach Boys cover song?

[Newguy562]

Best:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uieE43uxur0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmXGGlUaoOw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAfcnS4VfDQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrbzTBosjA4


Worst:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEpziUuHr6U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yo4wtBE0AGw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzyMeoLwMrA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3gLb_V20hQ

I also wanted to name WDFFIL in "worst" list but again, the case is its melody. Not to my musical taste. As for your "best" - I like all the mentioned songs, especially Do You Wanna Dance.

well i don't hate WDFFIL it's just after i heard the original then heard this i had to put it in the worst..they shouldnt even perform that song when they have way better covers they could've done
i'm suprised so many bb fans hate "never learn not to love" :/

I don't think that many Beach Boys fans hate NLNTL, it's more that some people feel uncomfortable with it because of its origins. Speaking for myself, I love it, strongest non-Smile song on 20/20.

As for best and worst covers - Best: Do You Wanna Dance?, Cottonfields (45 version)
                                          Worst: Remember (Walkin' In The Sand), Surfin' (SIP version)

i think it's easily one of the strongest on that album the awesome thing is dennis had the best songs on 20/20 it's definitely his shining moment...

[thatjacob]

Best:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uieE43uxur0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmXGGlUaoOw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAfcnS4VfDQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrbzTBosjA4


Worst:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEpziUuHr6U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yo4wtBE0AGw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzyMeoLwMrA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3gLb_V20hQ

I also wanted to name WDFFIL in "worst" list but again, the case is its melody. Not to my musical taste. As for your "best" - I like all the mentioned songs, especially Do You Wanna Dance.

well i don't hate WDFFIL it's just after i heard the original then heard this i had to put it in the worst..they shouldnt even perform that song when they have way better covers they could've done
i'm suprised so many bb fans hate "never learn not to love" :/

I don't think that many Beach Boys fans hate NLNTL, it's more that some people feel uncomfortable with it because of its origins. Speaking for myself, I love it, strongest non-Smile song on 20/20.

As for best and worst covers - Best: Do You Wanna Dance?, Cottonfields (45 version)
                                          Worst: Remember (Walkin' In The Sand), Surfin' (SIP version)

That's actually part of the appeal of NLNTL for me. I listened to some of Manson's albums regularly when I was a freshman in college. It's very interesting to listen to them in chronological order because you can actually hear the descent into madness from what once just seemed like an eccentric guy.

[Nicko1234]

i think it's easily one of the strongest on that album the awesome thing is dennis had the best songs on 20/20 it's definitely his shining moment...

I don`t know about that. Firstly I would say that half a dozen of the songs on 20/20 are superior to Dennis` contributions. But I`m also not sure how it can be considered `definitely his shining moment` when Sunflower and POB are taken into consideration.

[rn57]

Completely forgot about Under The Boardwalk, which is easily worse than Peggy Sue. So is Remember (Walking In The Sand) for that matter. So either of those two can replace the Holly song as my choice.

NLNTL is a recording I never cared much for...though after watching Dennis perform it with a fair amount of soul in that Mike Douglas (or is it Merv Griffin?) clip, I might have to rethink that sometime.

[drbeachboy]

Having never heard the original version of Remember,  Walking In The Sand, what is so horrible about the Boys' version? I ask, because I happen to like Carl's lead vocal on it.

[Nicko1234]

Having never heard the original version of Remember,  Walking In The Sand, what is so horrible about the Boys' version? I ask, because I happen to like Carl's lead vocal on it.

I can understand that as in itself it is just a rather drab, plain, average pop song.

TThe original though was innovative, atmospheric and very different. It was a bizarre choice of cover version and I`m not sure what Terry Melcher was thinking really. Maybe the intention was to just transform it into a straightforward pop song which is fair enough I guess.

[rn57]

Having never heard the original version of Remember,  Walking In The Sand, what is so horrible about the Boys' version? I ask, because I happen to like Carl's lead vocal on it.

Well, Carl's vocal is all right, but the rest of the production is far below the Shangri-Las's original. But then again, that 1964 record is about as spectacular a debut as there's ever been in rock'n'roll. (For my money, in terms of mad genius, Shadow Morton tops Uncle Phil most any day.)  Whether Billy Joel really played piano on it, in what is supposed to be his first appearance on record, or whether he was only on a demo and someone else was copying his part, he should have retired from music the day it came out because he could never top a beginning like that. That's sort of how I feel about T-Bone Burnett, whose very first appearance on record was his drum solo on the Legendary Stardust Cowboy's "Paralyzed."

[Newguy562]

i think it's easily one of the strongest on that album the awesome thing is dennis had the best songs on 20/20 it's definitely his shining moment...

I don`t know about that. Firstly I would say that half a dozen of the songs on 20/20 are superior to Dennis` contributions. But I`m also not sure how it can be considered `definitely his shining moment` when Sunflower and POB are taken into consideration.

never learn not to love and be with me are the best songs on 20/20 imo..besides the smile songs of course..
and sunflower is a great contestant but no cigar imo..

[Ovi]

Best : I Can Hear Music
Worst : Rock and Roll Music

[Amanda Hart]

I heard that Charles was angry when he saw he wasn't credited as one of the co-writers of the song. And I've read that Dennis was attacked by Manson though I'm not sure if it's because of NLNTL or other reason.

My understanding of the situation was that it was agreed upon before hand that Manson would not be credited on the record and received an up front fee for the song. His only request was that they lyrics weren't changed; they were, and that's what he was upset about. I also don't think Manson ever attacked Dennis, per say, but he definitely threatened him to the point that Dennis was afraid to deal with him or testify during the trial.

[Newguy562]

I heard that Charles was angry when he saw he wasn't credited as one of the co-writers of the song. And I've read that Dennis was attacked by Manson though I'm not sure if it's because of NLNTL or other reason.

My understanding of the situation was that it was agreed upon before hand that Manson would not be credited on the record and received an up front fee for the song. His only request was that they lyrics weren't changed; they were, and that's what he was upset about. I also don't think Manson ever attacked Dennis, per say, but he definitely threatened him to the point that Dennis was afraid to deal with him or testify during the trial.

wow manson scared dennis? i wonder what's so scary about that dude it's like he had the whole country terrified of his ass

[startBBtoday]

I heard that Charles was angry when he saw he wasn't credited as one of the co-writers of the song. And I've read that Dennis was attacked by Manson though I'm not sure if it's because of NLNTL or other reason.

My understanding of the situation was that it was agreed upon before hand that Manson would not be credited on the record and received an up front fee for the song. His only request was that they lyrics weren't changed; they were, and that's what he was upset about. I also don't think Manson ever attacked Dennis, per say, but he definitely threatened him to the point that Dennis was afraid to deal with him or testify during the trial.

wow manson scared dennis? i wonder what's so scary about that dude it's like he had the whole country terrified of his ass

I heard he had bad BO, maybe that was it.

[Ron]

Really? I thought many, including me, like NLNTL. That's my favorite song by Dennis.

wow well you have good taste because it's a magnificent song ..didn't charles manson confront dennis after they did that song?

I heard that Charles was angry when he saw he wasn't credited as one of the co-writers of the song. And I've read that Dennis was attacked by Manson though I'm not sure if it's because of NLNTL or other reason.

i know charles was a lunatic and manipulator but i think dennis could kick his ass if it was a fist fight lol

Nah.  Dennis was a sweetheart, at heart, Charlie didnt' fight fair and would have had 10 women with him LOL

[Ron]

Having never heard the original version of Remember,  Walking In The Sand, what is so horrible about the Boys' version? I ask, because I happen to like Carl's lead vocal on it.

Well, Carl's vocal is all right, but the rest of the production is far below the Shangri-Las's original. But then again, that 1964 record is about as spectacular a debut as there's ever been in rock'n'roll. (For my money, in terms of mad genius, Shadow Morton tops Uncle Phil most any day.)  Whether Billy Joel really played piano on it, in what is supposed to be his first appearance on record, or whether he was only on a demo and someone else was copying his part, he should have retired from music the day it came out because he could never top a beginning like that. That's sort of how I feel about T-Bone Burnett, whose very first appearance on record was his drum solo on the Legendary Stardust Cowboy's "Paralyzed."

I agree wtih you that the Boys should have never tried to record a Shangri-Las song, it's just too awesome to be tinkered with... but Billy Joel went on to do many great things, come on man!

[Ron]

I heard that Charles was angry when he saw he wasn't credited as one of the co-writers of the song. And I've read that Dennis was attacked by Manson though I'm not sure if it's because of NLNTL or other reason.

My understanding of the situation was that it was agreed upon before hand that Manson would not be credited on the record and received an up front fee for the song. His only request was that they lyrics weren't changed; they were, and that's what he was upset about. I also don't think Manson ever attacked Dennis, per say, but he definitely threatened him to the point that Dennis was afraid to deal with him or testify during the trial.

wow manson scared dennis? i wonder what's so scary about that dude it's like he had the whole country terrified of his ass

A lot of it was: he was a hippie, and at the time, there were a shitload of hippies all doing weird sh*t that a lot of people didn't really understand.  So Chuck made everybody think "I wonder if they're all like this?"

Dennis was just afraid of the guy because he was a psycopath, and Dennis, for all his failings, was not a psychopath.  He was, or at least wanted to be, a decent human being like most people.  Charles Manson had long gave up wanting to be a decent human being. 

[Phoenix]

Best: Sloop John B and I Can Hear Music
Worst: SIP Surfin'

[Newguy562]

I heard that Charles was angry when he saw he wasn't credited as one of the co-writers of the song. And I've read that Dennis was attacked by Manson though I'm not sure if it's because of NLNTL or other reason.

My understanding of the situation was that it was agreed upon before hand that Manson would not be credited on the record and received an up front fee for the song. His only request was that they lyrics weren't changed; they were, and that's what he was upset about. I also don't think Manson ever attacked Dennis, per say, but he definitely threatened him to the point that Dennis was afraid to deal with him or testify during the trial.

wow manson scared dennis? i wonder what's so scary about that dude it's like he had the whole country terrified of his ass

A lot of it was: he was a hippie, and at the time, there were a sh*tload of hippies all doing weird sh*t that a lot of people didn't really understand.  So Chuck made everybody think "I wonder if they're all like this?"

Dennis was just afraid of the guy because he was a psycopath, and Dennis, for all his failings, was not a psychopath.  He was, or at least wanted to be, a decent human being like most people.  Charles Manson had long gave up wanting to be a decent human being. 

what's so scary about manson though?

[MaxL]

I heard that Charles was angry when he saw he wasn't credited as one of the co-writers of the song. And I've read that Dennis was attacked by Manson though I'm not sure if it's because of NLNTL or other reason.

My understanding of the situation was that it was agreed upon before hand that Manson would not be credited on the record and received an up front fee for the song. His only request was that they lyrics weren't changed; they were, and that's what he was upset about. I also don't think Manson ever attacked Dennis, per say, but he definitely threatened him to the point that Dennis was afraid to deal with him or testify during the trial.

wow manson scared dennis? i wonder what's so scary about that dude it's like he had the whole country terrified of his ass

A lot of it was: he was a hippie, and at the time, there were a sh*tload of hippies all doing weird sh*t that a lot of people didn't really understand.  So Chuck made everybody think "I wonder if they're all like this?"

Dennis was just afraid of the guy because he was a psycopath, and Dennis, for all his failings, was not a psychopath.  He was, or at least wanted to be, a decent human being like most people.  Charles Manson had long gave up wanting to be a decent human being.  

what's so scary about manson though?

... you do know who he is, right?

Also (actually on-topic):
Best - I'm So Young I Can Hear Music (a toughie) ... or maybe There's No Other
Worst - Chapel of Love (great song, but the Boys version seems lazy)

[Newguy562]

I heard that Charles was angry when he saw he wasn't credited as one of the co-writers of the song. And I've read that Dennis was attacked by Manson though I'm not sure if it's because of NLNTL or other reason.

My understanding of the situation was that it was agreed upon before hand that Manson would not be credited on the record and received an up front fee for the song. His only request was that they lyrics weren't changed; they were, and that's what he was upset about. I also don't think Manson ever attacked Dennis, per say, but he definitely threatened him to the point that Dennis was afraid to deal with him or testify during the trial.

wow manson scared dennis? i wonder what's so scary about that dude it's like he had the whole country terrified of his ass

A lot of it was: he was a hippie, and at the time, there were a sh*tload of hippies all doing weird sh*t that a lot of people didn't really understand.  So Chuck made everybody think "I wonder if they're all like this?"

Dennis was just afraid of the guy because he was a psycopath, and Dennis, for all his failings, was not a psychopath.  He was, or at least wanted to be, a decent human being like most people.  Charles Manson had long gave up wanting to be a decent human being.  

what's so scary about manson though?

... you do know who he is, right?

Also (actually on-topic):
Best - I'm So Young I Can Hear Music (a toughie) ... or maybe There's No Other
Worst - Chapel of Love (great song, but the Boys version seems lazy)

yes i heard stories about him but i don't understand why he's so scary there is plenty of murderers scarier than him...wait idk if i should label him a murderer since he never murdered anyone..

[Amanda Hart]

yes i heard stories about him but i don't understand why he's so scary there is plenty of murderers scarier than him...wait idk if i should label him a murderer since he never murdered anyone..

Well, there is more to the story than just the Tate-LaBianca murders, and he was convected of those, even if he didn't actually stab them. If some morally deficient psychopath with a group of kids blindly following him that you kicked of your house walked up to you and handed you a bullet, implying you or little boy might be receiving another one in the skull, you'd probably be pretty scared.

Anyway, bringing this back on topic: It's a really tough choice for best and worst. Brian has an amazing ability to take a song and really make it his own, and on the other side of the coin they have recorded some absolutely embarrassing covers. I guess I'll go...
Best - Sloop John B - Totally amazing, that track is something else.
Worst - Blueberry Hill - Possibly my least favorite to ever see release, for whatever reason I really hate this cut

[startBBtoday]

I heard that Charles was angry when he saw he wasn't credited as one of the co-writers of the song. And I've read that Dennis was attacked by Manson though I'm not sure if it's because of NLNTL or other reason.

My understanding of the situation was that it was agreed upon before hand that Manson would not be credited on the record and received an up front fee for the song. His only request was that they lyrics weren't changed; they were, and that's what he was upset about. I also don't think Manson ever attacked Dennis, per say, but he definitely threatened him to the point that Dennis was afraid to deal with him or testify during the trial.

wow manson scared dennis? i wonder what's so scary about that dude it's like he had the whole country terrified of his ass

A lot of it was: he was a hippie, and at the time, there were a sh*tload of hippies all doing weird sh*t that a lot of people didn't really understand.  So Chuck made everybody think "I wonder if they're all like this?"

Dennis was just afraid of the guy because he was a psycopath, and Dennis, for all his failings, was not a psychopath.  He was, or at least wanted to be, a decent human being like most people.  Charles Manson had long gave up wanting to be a decent human being.  

what's so scary about manson though?

... you do know who he is, right?

Also (actually on-topic):
Best - I'm So Young I Can Hear Music (a toughie) ... or maybe There's No Other
Worst - Chapel of Love (great song, but the Boys version seems lazy)

yes i heard stories about him but i don't understand why he's so scary there is plenty of murderers scarier than him...wait idk if i should label him a murderer since he never murdered anyone..

It's scarier that he wasn't doing the murders himself and that he could convince other people to do them for him. There was some serious mind control going on with Manson that obviously let to some scary stuff.