The Beach Boys Versus The Rolling Stones: 50th Anniversary Showdown

[Alex]

And wouldn't this year also be the 55th anniv. for Buddy Holly and the Crickets?

[joe_blow]

To be honest I don't think the Stones could care less what the Beach Boys did/are doing. Whatever they plan on doing for their anniversary, I'm sure they're quite secure in themselves. What more do they need to prove?

That said, deep down they know they're chickensh*t to get on stage with the Beach Boys.

 Agree that Keith could care less, but Mick has probably noticed. Wonder if The Beach Boys' frontman has any thoughts on Mick this year?

Not a big RS fan, but Jagger will kick Myke's butt down the road as far as he wants to. He is the ultimate frontman and  Myke will always be choking in his dust. Mick and the band will get great press as the world's greatest rock and roll band of all time.

But , BUt, Mike and the BBs did Jumping Jack in concert, when have the Stones ever had the balls to do any BBs?  ( never; that's right)

I seem to recall there being a bootleg of the Stones doing I Get Around. I am sure I had it somewhere....

[bgas]

If the Stones tour in 2013, will they consider it their 50th Anniversary tour? Maybe diehards could clarify, but I thought the Rolling Stones were acknowledging 2012 as their 50th anniversary, but chose not to tour regardless.

Maybe they could pull a Beach Boys, who were formed in 1961, did their first gig in 1961, and released their first record in 1961, but celebrated their 50th Anniversary in 2012!

Well, sure. But Late November /early December 61 is more likely to be counted as 62, in a round-off way of thinking. They did what, 3 maybe 4 appearances in 61?

[Christian]

I seem to recall there being a bootleg of the Stones doing I Get Around. I am sure I had it somewhere....

It´s actually a recording by the Andrew Oldham Orchestra, lead vocal by Mick Jagger (no other Stone involved).

[bgas]

I seem to recall there being a bootleg of the Stones doing I Get Around. I am sure I had it somewhere....

It´s actually a recording by the Andrew Oldham Orchestra, lead vocal by Mick Jagger (no other Stone involved).

Figures; if anyone would know, you da man!

[MBE]

Unless the Stones do theatres I have no desire to ever see them again. It was cool once to see them in 1994 but I hated the theatrics. After 1978 I can't really stomach too many of their gigs. I hate the female background singers, I think Keith can't play worth crap since the Some Girls era, and though Ron and Charlie are still good, Mick is just sad. Unless tickets are much cheaper, the venues much smaller, and maybe Mick T and Bill are back, a new Stones tour or album will mean nothing to me. I mean my favorite member died in 1969, and since the 1981 tour Mick and Keith are pathetic. I do enjoy the post Brian pre 1980's studio work fine, but to me they were cool without him not innovators. I am a huge fan but much more than the Beach Boys I hate what they became. Keith's book was nasty and garbage as well.

[Moon Dawg]

 Keith's book was rather mean. Imagine if Mick wrote a book taking Keith to task for the size of his member. But somehow it's all fun and games when it's Keith. Talk about a crazy old man...

[MBE]

Keith's book was rather mean. Imagine if Mick wrote a book taking Keith to task for the size of his member. But somehow it's all fun and games when it's Keith. Talk about a crazy old man...

He totally wrote Brian out of history only because he grew not to like him. Funny enough Keith's done everything Brian ever did wrong and his addiction screwed up the band to a far deeper level because frankly it was a lot worse.  Without him and Mick and Ian (who is about the only person who gets treated fair in the whole thing) Keith would have been a bum. I say this as somebody who loves Keith's writing, playing, and even vocals in the sixties and seventies. He simply didn't have their ambition, marketability (at least at the start), or organizational skills. I don't know if he had tried to understand Brian and Mick even if he didn't agree with all they did I would have a lot more understanding for Keith or who Keith became.

[Sheriff John Stone]

If the Stones tour in 2013, will they consider it their 50th Anniversary tour? Maybe diehards could clarify, but I thought the Rolling Stones were acknowledging 2012 as their 50th anniversary, but chose not to tour regardless.

Maybe they could pull a Beach Boys, who were formed in 1961, did their first gig in 1961, and released their first record in 1961, but celebrated their 50th Anniversary in 2012!

Well, sure. But Late November /early December 61 is more likely to be counted as 62, in a round-off way of thinking. They did what, 3 maybe 4 appearances in 61?

I only brought it up because, during these 50th Anniversary interviews, they are repeating the "Dennis asked us to write a song about surfing" story, Al is telling the story about the guys auditioning for his mother and recording "Surfin" with Brian on drums and Al on bass, and the guys calling into a radio station to vote for/request "Surfin" - all of which happened in 1961.

How many appearances does it take to legitimize the group? 1, 3, 4? I don't know. I have no problem with making 1962 the  starting point. It's all good. Just saying...

[Wah Wah Wah Ooooo]

I read somewhere that the Stones consider '63 to be the start because that's when Charlie Watts came into the band.

[Moon Dawg]

 Buddy of mine had the MADE IN THE SHADE and GOOD VIBRATIONS:BEST OF THE BEACH BOYS comps, both of which were released at the same time, early Summer 1975. Great listening...

[Moon Dawg]

The Beatles. Neither the beach boys nor the stones legitimately have 50th reunion's this year. The Beach Boys should've been last year, and the stones should be next year, as far as first studio recording release goes.

 IMO the whole point is that the Stones and the Beach Boys are still functional bands, thus the 50th anniversary stuff. This just isn't the Beatles' moment. Let's forget about them (for awhile) and make way for the Beach Boys and the Rolling Stones.

[Moon Dawg]

  The Stones are releasing a 3 CD best of (GRRR!) with two new tracks this November. (Single "Gloom & Doom" out now.) I don't know if a new Rolling Stones studio album is in the cards for 2013, but if not, score a point for The Beach Boys!

[Cabinessenceking]

There should be one of those 'EPIC RAP BATTLES OF HISTORY' feat. Mike vs Mick

[Rocky Raccoon]

As I will have seen both live this year, I'll let you folks know who puts on the better show. 

[Junebug]

I like The Stones , heard that new track Doom and Gloom Blues (?) and it's good.
No way will it compere to the BB's though, the new album is superb and the Stones haven't managed that since i was in pampers.
Also , the Boys got David back will the Stones invite Mick Taylor, with whom they made (for me) their best work , i think not.......................

[Rocky Raccoon]

There are rumors Bill Wyman has been rehearsing with them, I agree that they should include Taylor as well.

[Aum Bop Diddit]

I'm a Beach Boys fan first, but am also a big Stones fan and post over at the "Tell Me" board where this subject has been broached.  Interestingly there is a great crossover of fans and a lot of respect for Brian and the BBs among the posters there (Mike's R&RHOF speech notwithstanding).  I think the Beach Boys big resurgence via the recent LP and tour were a direct result of Brian's artistic integrity over the last 15 years.  Creating new and ambitious material (if generally not fully up to his old standards), forming a crackerjack band with full awareness and appreciation of his lesser known masterworks, and a growing general public appreciation of Pet Sounds and Smile (and BWPS) built a head of steam and majority of the touring band for Beach Boys 2012.  The Stones on the other hand have spent  the majority of the past 20 years or so releasing by the numbers product to help promote high priced stadium tours.  The exception being perhaps the Stripped project.

I've wanted Mick to cut the stadium Rooster crap since 1975.  But they love the money.  It parallels the BBs post Endless Summer mindset for me.  Jukebox and cheerleaders.  Warhorses and posing.  Whatever.  Would love to see the Stones make a rootsier album, or attempt a tour of smaller venues and play offbeat gems.  Hell -- perform Their Satanic Majesties Request in full would turn me on way more than Jumping Jack Flash one more time.  It won't happen.

[Doo Dah]

Those four concerts will be interesting. Anyone here playing to go? Expect a lot of vids and pontificaters pontificating. 

[Justin]

Hey Aum Bop Diddit...what's your screen name on IORR?  That place is my second home!

[Aum Bop Diddit]

Hey Aum Bop Diddit...what's your screen name on IORR?  That place is my second home!

"Wry Cooter"    And you?  I'll be looking for ya!

[Justin]

Ah cool!  I know your posts very well...you're one of the good guys!  My username is the same there as it is here: Justin.  Nice to know there's some good crossover here!

[Cabinessenceking]

The Beatles died forever in 1969. They are finito. I don't think John woulda wanted anything Beatles related again. For sure he might've joined the other guys, but I think he really wanted to turn his back on the concept of The Beatles. As others say here, let the dead groups rest, it's time for the Stones and BB's to shine. However the stones stand stronger, they don't have any gaping hole like Carl and Dennis are. Well, ofc Brian Jones was a huge loss, but they did do stuff after that. That can't be said for Dennis, and certainly not for Carl. Wyman doesn't count in my list for the obvious reasons, but he is a great musician and I loved his Blues Odyssey!

[Aum Bop Diddit]

Ah cool!  I know your posts very well...you're one of the good guys!  My username is the same there as it is here: Justin.  Nice to know there's some good crossover here!

Well obviously you are too!  Guess I could have figured that one out but what the hey.  I will say some of the posters are a little rough on edges there!  (And perhaps a little more under the influence of something.  )  But just like here some great hard core discussions and info.  See you there!

[Justin]

It's been a headache going over there, lately.  Sadly, it's the only Stones board really worth visiting but it's sadly being ruled by bitter, Debbie Downers that thread-crap on all the threads.  I understand there's a lot to be miffed about with the band like the ridiculously high ticket prices but it's difficult to actually have a discussion when people are just so blatantly bitter and pessimistic--nothing gets done.  Hopefully it will blow over but it ain't happening any time soon....