The Peter Ames Carlin Thread

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Cam Mott:
Quote from: Peter Ames Carlin on April 17, 2006, 07:39:41 PM

Mr. Doody

[giggle]

Rocker:
Hey Peter,
with those things said about a possible reunion, would you write another book or do a "new version" of yours, if the reunion should happen?

Peter Ames Carlin:
Hi Charles: Since my book hasn't even come out yet it's really hard for me to think about doing anything else other than getting it out and about and hopefully read and understand and maybe even enjoyed, here and there. And when it comes to the reunion thing. . . I'll believe it when I see it, for one thing. And even if it does happen, I can't help wondering how significant it will be, really. After all, Brian has already performed "Pet Sounds" in its entirety. This version of the BB's, such as it might be, is still nothing like the original BB's, given the importance of Carl's voice in the PS mix (who's going to sing "God Only Knows" in this group? Bruce?) And who's the band going to be? I know the BW band hasn't been approached to be a part of this alleged event. Does that mean this is going to be the Mike and Bruce show with Brian and Al brought onboard to sing? And can all those Hawaiian shirt guys play all those elaborate "PS" songs with the care and expertise of BW's band?

No answers here, just questions. And maybe there's some enormous emotional signficance for Brian, et. al, in coming back together, and not ending things with the rancor they've had for the last ten years or so. But as someone viewing from afar, I can only say that Brian's creative and emotional health have only seemed to get stronger since he left the Beach Boys. And that Mike and Bruce (the latter of whom observed to me in an email, in response to a music-geek query, "this is a BUSINESS to me")  seem far more engaged by the financial aspects of working with Brian than by the creative ones.

Ultimately these guys all deserve to be happy with themselves, their music and their relationships. If this is a step in MIke, Al and Brian's journey toward feeling okay with one another, at long last, than maybe it's the best possible thing. That would represent a huge step for all of them. If they can pull it off at this point in their lives, I'm all for it. But if this reunion is going to be just another iteration of the same old jealousies, hatred and greed, I couldn't think of anything worse.

Rocker:
Quote from: Peter Ames Carlin on April 23, 2006, 09:58:09 AM

Hi Charles:


??

But thanks for sharing your point of view. I didn't think of Bruce as being that much into the financial aspect.
The Hawaiian-shirt thing is another point.... Would they really perform Pet Sounds in that outfit???

Glenn Greenberg:
Hey Peter.

Really looking forward to buying (and reading!) your book.

Just wondering--how in-depth do you get into Brian's role in the post-SMILE era Beach Boys?

So many sources make it seem like Brian basically dropped out after SMILE and had no involvement with the Beach Boys again until 15 BIG ONES, and as a fairly new BB fan (three-and-a-half years or so), I believed that wholeheartedly... until I bought WILD HONEY, FRIENDS, 20/20, SUNFLOWER, etc. within the last couple of years.

I'd be interested in knowing just how involved he was in the making of those albums, what he was doing at the time, was he really just zoning out in his bedroom, and how connected he was to the band (and to reality itself, really) during that period.  I mean, clearly, he's on those albums, so he was with them on occasion, at least.

And do you delve deeply into Brian's return in 1976?  Domenic Priore seems to think, based on his recent SMILE book, that Brian intentionally sabotaged 15 BIG ONES and LOVE YOU by wrecking his voice so that he'd sound as awful as possible, because, deep down, he really didn't want those albums to succeed and he wanted to get back at the Beach Boys for not supporting him over the years.  I'm curious to know if you came to the same conclusion.

 

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