The inclusion of Don't fight the sea' would make a much better album

[rab2591]

No. Don't Fight The Sea is crap. Saved by good performances, but not worthy.


Then again, some things that made the album were also not worthy.... but still better than Don't Fight The Sea.

I've NEVER understood the hype about this song. It does sound like crap. It's dark, Al's version sounded one-dimensional - even with all those vocals. As much as I hate Beaches in Mind I prefer that to be on the album over Don't Fight The Sea.

Also, I don't get the hate for The Private Life of Bill and Sue - It's quirky - yet beautiful....it's a fun tune!

[Dwayne]

At first I was disappointed that "Don't Fight the Sea" wasn't going to be on the album, but then I realized that this made room for another new song rather than have something we already own and it made a good incentive for fans to buy Al's album as well.  I have bought Al's album again just for the other song with BBs on it.  I don't get the argument that the album "sags" anywhere, as I feel that "Beaches in Mind", Spring Vacation, Bill & Sue etc are so very catchy that those are the tunes that I've been humming all day after just the first listen!  I think the album has best been described as similar to the Today album where one side is upbeat and catchy and the other is more emotional and balladie.  All in all way better than I ever expected!

Dwayne

[ArchStanton]

I put this on my IPOD with the thought of playing around with a placement for it on the album, so it was tacked on the back of the playlist (I like the song, sorry!).  Anyway, it's weird to hear it come in, with the waves, after "Summer's Gone."  Really weird, but kind of cool, I dunno.

[lance]

Loop de Loop would give it more punch.

[Smilin Ed H]

I'd take it over Beaches, Vacation and Daybreak, but it's already out and belongs on Al's album.

[tansen]

No. Don't Fight The Sea is crap. Saved by good performances, but not worthy.


Then again, some things that made the album were also not worthy.... but still better than Don't Fight The Sea.

I've NEVER understood the hype about this song. It does sound like crap. It's dark, Al's version sounded one-dimensional - even with all those vocals. As much as I hate Beaches in Mind I prefer that to be on the album over Don't Fight The Sea.

I agree with you and hypehat. I don't understand how putting a mediocre song like 'Dont Fight the Sea' could make the album any better.

[Aegir]

I'm glad they didn't put Don't Fight the Sea on, not because I don't like the song, but because it wouldn't fit at all. most of Don't Fight the Sea was recorded in the 80s and some of the lead is sung by a man who is now deceased.

I don't think Daybreak should've been put on the album, either, but at least that was recorded only a few years ago and produced in a way similar to most of the other songs on the album.

[pixletwin]

Don't Fight the Sea isn't a good song, imo. It sounds like something from the 80's. Listening to it I have a hard time notn shutting out images of the 80's BB strutting around like they do in the California Dreaming video. I am glad it isn't on the album.

[Roger Ryan]

...I think Al let his songs out too early and blew his chances of getting anything on the album...

This must be the first time in the history of the band that anyone has accused Al of releasing his songs too early!

Given that part of the new album's charm is that it sounds of one piece (despite the slightly different production of Mike's track), "Don't Fight The Sea" (or any other resurrected track that wasn't completely reworked) would sound as awkward as "Good Time" on LOVE YOU or "When Girls Get Together" on KTSA.

[Catbirdman]

Given that part of the new album's charm is that it sounds of one piece (despite the slightly different production of Mike's track), "Don't Fight The Sea" (or any other resurrected track that wasn't completely reworked) would sound as awkward as "Good Time" on LOVE YOU or "When Girls Get Together" on KTSA.

Wow, spooky. I had almost replied to this thread yesterday with almost those same exact words and using the same examples. I would also mention "Games Two Can Play" and "H.E.L.P.," and how uncomfortably they sit amongst the gruff, croony stuff that surrounds them on Adult Child. There are a few cuts on Al's recent album that I personally think sound fine in the context of TWGMTR ("San Simeon" being a personal favorite), but in principle I really appreciate when an album has the cohesion of being recorded as a whole.

[meltedwhiskeyinmyhand]

The album is fine the way that it is.

[Cabinessenceking]

I agree with OP

They should've thrown Crocodile Rock in there too, then we would've had a real ALBUM!






 

[Magic City Surfer]

Slot in "Waves of Love" between "Shelter" and "Daybreak" and it sounds great.

While I'm basically in the camp of leaving the album the way it is, I can't help but play the game of combining it with Al's album.

I just placed "And I Always Will" between "Pacific Coast Highway" and "Summer's Gone", and I can't believe how well it fits.

[Magic City Surfer]

This album is brand new and I want to experience over and over again exactly the way it has been presented to us.

That said... because it's so easy to do... here's my running order combining both albums:

Think About the Days
California Feeling
That's Why God Made the Radio
Drivin'
Isn't It Time
San Simeon
Spring Vacation
Waves of Love
Daybreak Over the Ocean
Don't Fight the Sea
Looking Down the Coast
There and Back Again
Pacific Coast Highway
And I Always Will
Summer's Gone

For those willing to play the game, try the order out. I think it really works. Brian's vocals on Drivin' really help its inclusion here.  This order almost perfectly alternates between the two albums, but the sound effects sort of marry Don't Fight the Sea and Looking Down the Coast  together.

The main reason I don't include Shelter or Beaches in Mind is that those songs seem to really miss Carl. I can so easily hear where he should be on those songs that it bothers me to listen to them without him.

[Magic City Surfer]

here's my running order combining both albums:

Think About the Days
California Feeling
That's Why God Made the Radio
Drivin'
Isn't It Time
San Simeon
Spring Vacation
Waves of Love
Daybreak Over the Ocean
Don't Fight the Sea
Looking Down the Coast
There and Back Again
Pacific Coast Highway
And I Always Will
Summer's Gone

For comparison's sake, and for proper perspective, here's my running order combining Still Cruisin' and Summer In Paradise:

Still Cruisin'
Still Surfin'
Kokomo
Island Fever
Lahaina Alhoa
Wipe Out
Summer of Love
In My Car
Hot Fun in the Summertime
Island Girl
Somewhere Near Japan
Summer In Paradise


Sorry, didn't mean to soil this thread with the names of those songs!