Bruce gets political

[Exapno Mapcase]

"Someone had to say it and Bruce did."

Yeah, Romney is awful...

[Mikie]

Yeah, Romney is awful...

Yep, he sure is.  Deep pocketed Flip-Flopper. Thousands of Repugnicans don't even like him.

[jackstar74]

Are you mad because Bruce doesn't like Obama?? Or that he isn't a staunch Democrat?? He's entitled to his political views or opinions.  

[Disney Boy (1985)]

Are you mad because Bruce doesn't like Obama?? Or that he isn't a staunch Democrat?? He's entitled to his political views or opinions. 

And those of us who think Bruce's comments are misguided, wrong-headed, ignorant bullsh*t are also entitled to say so.

[filledeplage]

I met Bruce tonight at the VIP and it was chilly to say the least. I'm really, really disappointed. He was not friendly at all. Kind of put me in a weird frame of mind for the show. Al on the other hand was very, very nice.

It was my impression that there would be no real interaction at the meet and greet.  It was represented as a photo session after the sound check not a schmooze.

The guys were seated, and the guest was placed behind the band for the photo, to be picked up online.

Did I miss something?

[Disney Boy (1985)]

I met Bruce tonight at the VIP and it was chilly to say the least. I'm really, really disappointed. He was not friendly at all. Kind of put me in a weird frame of mind for the show. Al on the other hand was very, very nice.

It was my impression that there would be no real interaction at the meet and greet.  It was represented as a photo session after the sound check not a schmooze.

The guys were seated, and the guest was placed behind the band for the photo, to be picked up online.

Did I miss something?

Er, yeh but manners and general politeness cost nothing. Just being plain pleasant shouldn't be difficult. Al doesn't seem to find it hard.

[Jason]

You shall not question the DEAR LEADER.

[Dave in KC]

Did O'Reilly mention this?

Although he did not mention the controversy, he said that he wrote a column on the Beach Boys and I believe it's in the NYT today. Anyway I read it at his website. Pretty nice Bill. And so true.

[SurfRiderHawaii]

Are you mad because Bruce doesn't like Obama?? Or that he isn't a staunch Democrat?? He's entitled to his political views or opinions. 

And those of us who think Bruce's comments are misguided, wrong-headed, ignorant bullsh*t are also entitled to say so.

Superbly well put!

[Jason]

The exchange between heysaboda and stack-o-tracks is proof positive that Americans like their bullshit wrapped up in nice designer (D) clothing. Grow up. The (D) and (R) agenda was bought out in the 1950s.

[SBonilla]

OK, Bruce should be reprimanded and sit out the next several dozen dates. Then the remaining sober members should beg for forgiveness and grovel at  Blondie and Ricky's feet and implore them to rejoin the band.

[Emdeeh]

Well, SNL did have something with the Beach Boys last night, and it may or may not have had anything to do with Bruce's comments. There was a big B&W poster of the Boys circa 1964 hanging on the wall in what was supposed to be Joe Biden's "dorm room" in the White House. My husband (a poly-sci major) thinks that they used a pic of the guys from the pre-Bruce era as a semi-snub to Bruce's anti-Obama remarks. Me, I suspect it was there because the BB's had just been in NYC.

Anyway, judge for yourselves:
http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/obama-visits-biden-cold-open/1401439

[SMiLE Brian]

The exchange between heysaboda and stack-o-tracks is proof positive that Americans like their bullsh*t wrapped up in nice designer (D) clothing. Grow up. The (D) and (R) agenda was bought out in the 1950s.

I'm glad that Ron Paul has young people believing in good policy.

[Heysaboda]

The exchange between heysaboda and stack-o-tracks is proof positive that Americans like their b******t wrapped up in nice designer (D) clothing. Grow up. The (D) and (R) agenda was bought out in the 1950s.

I'm glad that Ron Paul has young people believing in good policy.

Since you mentioned it TRBB, I happen to be a registered Independent (I) in the good ol' USA.  Used to be in the Peace and Freedom Party.  But I'd agree w/ your point, TRBB, that many Americans settle into their (D) or (R) status for life, and rarely question it later on.

However, I happen to think there ARE major differences between (D) and (R).  For example, Al Gore would not have taken us into war w/ Iraq, no way.  This is just my opinion tho', no need to Flame me over it.

Re: Ron Paul, have you guys read thing things printed in his newsletter, not written BY him, granted, but FOR his newsletter.  Yikes and double YIKES.  Sorry, IMHO Ron Paul is a moral leper, living in the 18th century, and if you don't know this, then you are not reading enough.

And by the way, TRBB, I do enjoy reading all your posts.  And I enjoy, or used to enjoy most of those from stack-o-tracks too.  It's just when he brings out the "you're what's wrong with America" card, as he did in response to me, well, I'd say that's a foolish way of making an argument.

So, to anyone still reading, is it possible to have a political discussion without the insults?

P.S.

Ru Paul would be a better president than Ron Paul!

[Heysaboda]

Are you mad because Bruce doesn't like Obama?? Or that he isn't a staunch Democrat?? He's entitled to his political views or opinions. 

And those of us who think Bruce's comments are misguided, wrong-headed, ignorant bullsh*t are also entitled to say so.

Superbly well put!

Yes, nicely put, DB (1985).

If Bruce hates Obama, that's fine.  And if all the BB's hate the current POTUS, I really, honestly don't care.  It wouldn't bother me.

But for Bruce to disrepect the man is just uncalled for.  It's a comment that reflects poorly on Brucie.  Obama is a husband and father of two girls, and doesn't need the disrespect, even from an aging over-the-hill rocker.

Does Bruce realize that over 60% of the "youth" now attending BB's shows, voted for the guy?

Hey Bruce, takes one to know one, hmm?

 

[Jason]

I registered as an (R) in order to vote for Ron Paul in the elections. Once it's all said and done, I'm re-registering as an independent. I'm a libertarian and support either eliminating or HEAVILY downsizing government.

I'm not going to argue over opinions on a message board. I think we're all better than that.

As far as the Ron Paul situation goes the truth is somewhere in between what the ABC/NBC/CBS/CNN/FOX conglomerate and the uber-right-wingers write and say. The claims that he's a moral leper stuck in the past may be relevant for his own personal viewpoints, but the fact that he wouldn't let his personal views dictate his policies is to be admired especially if you consider his voting record. The newsletter thing is a mess; he even admitted responsibility for it. I would ask all of the "he's a racist antisemitic POS" people why people of all races and religions support him. Must be a lot of self-hating Jews, Arabs and blacks in the Ron Paul Revolution!

I am certainly in agreement with him with regards to the benefits of limited government (if we can't eliminate the government, make it as SMALL AS POSSIBLE), free markets, sound money, a cooperative and non-isolationist foreign policy with emphasis on free trade, warm relations, and NON-INTERVENTION, and the concept of personal liberty. I am quite anti-democracy; democracy is such a bullshit movement and I still don't know how people can defend it, even when democracy leads to those people being oppressed. I support the right to bear arms and believe that all people should be uninhibited from acquiring them. The government and current policy make it easier for criminals to commit crimes (because as we know criminals have no regard for the law) than for average folks like us to defend ourselves against them; I also support Castle Doctrine.

Ron Paul is like this - he is who he is but he doesn't want everyone else to live according to how he feels we should. No other politician runs on that kind of "live and let live" policy.

[I. Spaceman]

I think Carl Wilson was wrong for potentially alienating at least 50 percent of his audience by declaring Conscientious Objector status.

[Heysaboda]

I registered as an (R) in order to vote for Ron Paul in the elections. Once it's all said and done, I'm re-registering as an independent. I'm a libertarian and support either eliminating or HEAVILY downsizing government.

I'm not going to argue over opinions on a message board. I think we're all better than that.

As far as the Ron Paul situation goes the truth is somewhere in between what the ABC/NBC/CBS/CNN/FOX conglomerate and the uber-right-wingers write and say. The claims that he's a moral leper stuck in the past may be relevant for his own personal viewpoints, but the fact that he wouldn't let his personal views dictate his policies is to be admired especially if you consider his voting record. The newsletter thing is a mess; he even admitted responsibility for it. I would ask all of the "he's a racist antisemitic POS" people why people of all races and religions support him. Must be a lot of self-hating Jews, Arabs and blacks in the Ron Paul Revolution!

I am certainly in agreement with him with regards to the benefits of limited government (if we can't eliminate the government, make it as SMALL AS POSSIBLE), free markets, sound money, a cooperative and non-isolationist foreign policy with emphasis on free trade, warm relations, and NON-INTERVENTION, and the concept of personal liberty. I am quite anti-democracy; democracy is such a bullsh*t movement and I still don't know how people can defend it, even when democracy leads to those people being oppressed. I support the right to bear arms and believe that all people should be uninhibited from acquiring them. The government and current policy make it easier for criminals to commit crimes (because as we know criminals have no regard for the law) than for average folks like us to defend ourselves against them; I also support Castle Doctrine.

Ron Paul is like this - he is who he is but he doesn't want everyone else to live according to how he feels we should. No other politician runs on that kind of "live and let live" policy.

I will concede that those are many good points about Ron Paul.  Too bad his policies didn't catch on circa 1980.  Also to his credit, he was opposed to the Iraq war.

[Puggal]

I have always hated Bruce's songs (besides Deirdre). Now I personally dislike him for his conservative politics.
I'm going to boooooo him to pieces during Disney Girls if I go see them play this summer.

[Custom Machine]

I met Bruce tonight at the VIP and it was chilly to say the least. I'm really, really disappointed. He was not friendly at all. Kind of put me in a weird frame of mind for the show. Al on the other hand was very, very nice.

It was my impression that there would be no real interaction at the meet and greet.  It was represented as a photo session after the sound check not a schmooze.

The guys were seated, and the guest was placed behind the band for the photo, to be picked up online.

Did I miss something?

On the VIP Nation site the Meet and Greet is represented as being more than simply a photo session:

• Exclusive meet & greet with members of the Beach Boys
• Personal photograph with the Beach Boys

[coco1997]

I have always hated Bruce's songs (besides Deirdre). Now I personally dislike him for his conservative politics.
I'm going to boooooo him to pieces during Disney Girls if I go see them play this summer.

[Jason]

I have always hated Bruce's songs (besides Deirdre). Now I personally dislike him for his conservative politics.
I'm going to boooooo him to pieces during Disney Girls if I go see them play this summer.

Somebody didn't watch the video.

[oldsurferdude]

I think Carl Wilson was wrong for potentially alienating at least 50 percent of his audience by declaring Conscientious Objector status.

WTF??? Exactly what planet were you living on when he did?

[I. Spaceman]

I think Carl Wilson was wrong for potentially alienating at least 50 percent of his audience by declaring Conscientious Objector status.

WTF??? Exactly what planet were you living on when he did?

WHOOSH!

[grillo]

Are you mad because Bruce doesn't like Obama?? Or that he isn't a staunch Democrat?? He's entitled to his political views or opinions. 

And those of us who think Bruce's comments are misguided, wrong-headed, ignorant bullsh*t are also entitled to say so.

Superbly well put!

Yes, nicely put, DB (1985).



But for Bruce to disrepect the man is just uncalled for.  It's a comment that reflects poorly on Brucie.  Obama is a husband and father of two girls, and doesn't need the disrespect, even from an aging over-the-hill rocker.

   Sorry, why should one respect someone who, daily, is responsible for dozens of 'civilian' deaths in many locations around the world? Because he's a father!? Are you mad? Pretty sure it doesn't take much magic altruism to be a father. Because someone voted for the guy does not make him respectable. Peaceful and voluntary interactions are something I can respect. In what way is your demagogue peaceful or respectful to those murdered in the quest for empire?
   Remember how you used to hate those mean old wars of GWB? Why are you not on the street everyday protesting the current overlords' wars? There are more, not less, conflicts that 'Merica is involved with since the peace-prize-president arrived. Personally, I'd be ashamed to still follow leaders or believe that anyone other than me has my best interests at heart.
Clear the cobwebs folks.