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« Reply #25 on: February 24, 2012, 10:39:48 PM »

sounds like the original poster is familiar with the bootleg version and heard the KTSA version today?

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« Reply #26 on: February 24, 2012, 10:44:09 PM »

Didn't they play this at Knebworth? Would love to hear this!
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Well, it ain't that bad, considering that:

1. Al didn't mess up the lyrics, and

2. We are spared Mike's jarring nasal interjections which spoil the studio version.
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« Reply #27 on: February 24, 2012, 11:44:08 PM »

Didn't they play this at Knebworth? Would love to hear this!

Alan Boyd made this observation, circa 2002:

"They DID play “Santa Ana Winds” but it’s kind of a mess actually, it was a last minute inspiration, no real rehearsal, Al and Bruce are reading the lyrics from a piece of paper, and neither Carl or Brian seem very sure how to play the song. Also there’s no bass so that probably won’t make the cut."
Is it just me, or does it seem like Alan Boyd was talking about footage of the performance? Now, that I would love to see.
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« Reply #28 on: February 25, 2012, 01:06:10 AM »

Didn't they play this at Knebworth? Would love to hear this!

Alan Boyd made this observation, circa 2002:

"They DID play “Santa Ana Winds” but it’s kind of a mess actually, it was a last minute inspiration, no real rehearsal, Al and Bruce are reading the lyrics from a piece of paper, and neither Carl or Brian seem very sure how to play the song. Also there’s no bass so that probably won’t make the cut."
Is it just me, or does it seem like Alan Boyd was talking about footage of the performance? Now, that I would love to see.

Quite sure that he's referring to the video. More Knebworth footage would be most welcome!
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« Reply #29 on: February 25, 2012, 02:08:00 AM »

I've always wondered about that Good Timin' clip. The full "raw footage" of the concert doesn't circulate, does it? Somebody once posted a video on YouTube of California Girls from Knebworth with an alternate audio track than what was officially released. You can quite clearly hear Brian playing part of Rhapsody In Blue before the song starts.
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« Reply #30 on: February 25, 2012, 02:28:55 AM »

I've always wondered about that Good Timin' clip. The full "raw footage" of the concert doesn't circulate, does it? Somebody once posted a video on YouTube of California Girls from Knebworth with an alternate audio track than what was officially released. You can quite clearly hear Brian playing part of Rhapsody In Blue before the song starts.

AFAIK the entire footage doesn't circulate, apart from that Good Timin' clip. Several songs were omitted due to the performances being deemed sub-par ( In My Room, Good Timin', Catch a Wave, Some of Your Love, I Write The Songs, Santa Ana Winds and Wouldn't It Be Nice). Although it appears on the CD, "Happy Birthday" didn't make it to DVD due to the cost of clearing the sync/publishing rights.
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« Reply #31 on: February 25, 2012, 09:31:03 AM »

The bootleg version is stunning. The KTSA version is dreadful. The lyrics on the former fit perfectly, on the latter they scan really awkwardly. Also, the production on the KTSA version just sucks all the life and soul out of the song, particuarly the chorus. Bootleg on this one, ever time.

That's your opinion. The KTSA version is actually my favorite Post-Sunflower track. It only takes me a bit of effort to ignore the pointless spoken bit over the intro...
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« Reply #32 on: February 25, 2012, 09:51:05 AM »

I've always wondered about that Good Timin' clip. The full "raw footage" of the concert doesn't circulate, does it? Somebody once posted a video on YouTube of California Girls from Knebworth with an alternate audio track than what was officially released. You can quite clearly hear Brian playing part of Rhapsody In Blue before the song starts.

AFAIK the entire footage doesn't circulate, apart from that Good Timin' clip. Several songs were omitted due to the performances being deemed sub-par ( In My Room, Good Timin', Catch a Wave, Some of Your Love, I Write The Songs, Santa Ana Winds and Wouldn't It Be Nice). Although it appears on the CD, "Happy Birthday" didn't make it to DVD due to the cost of clearing the sync/publishing rights.

A couple of years ago I uploaded that Good Timin vid on YouTube. Last year when my old YT-account was "closed" I re-uploaded it on my other channel (HollandSmile), but I also noticed someone else was so nice to have uploaded it as well (definitely downloaded from my old channel as it's the same edit I made, and it's exactly the same time-length).

Anyway: the reason I uploaed it, is because I have a raw footage recording of that Knebworth show on video. It's not a complete set, but there is one song on it not available on the official DVD, and that's Good Timin'.

this is on my video:
-   California Girls
-   Sloop John B.
-   Darlin’
-   Good Timin’
-   God Only Knows
-   Be True To Your School
-   Little Deuce Coupe
-   Surfer Girl
-   Help Me, Rhonda
-   Rock ‘N’ Roll Music
-   I Get Around
-   Surfin’ U.S.A.
-   Good Vibrations
-   Barbara Ann
-   Fun, Fun, Fun

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« Reply #33 on: February 25, 2012, 03:25:33 PM »

The lyrics are better in the released version but it's horribly overproduced.
I like either set of lyrics but the later does have a bad production and Mike sings his line poorly.
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« Reply #34 on: February 25, 2012, 05:15:32 PM »

I hate the lyrics in the released version, their a real case of trying to hard.
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« Reply #35 on: February 26, 2012, 08:22:51 AM »


2. We are spared Mike's jarring nasal interjections which spoil the studio version.

That's the best part!
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« Reply #36 on: February 27, 2012, 03:41:19 AM »

sounds like the original poster is familiar with the bootleg version and heard the KTSA version today?

The downside of YouTube.

don't get me started!  youtube, wikipedia, facebook ... the world is coming to an end !

man, the thrill of hunting down rare tapes, trading through fan mailing lists w/ pen pals ... getting that cassette dub and feeling like you really had something special ...

now replaced with typing in a couple of words on a virtual TV set !

somehow, I can't imagine feeling the same sense of value.

Oh yeah! I totally miss paying 30 dollars for a bootleg, having no idea what I'll get, and finding superior quality copies a year later!

There are some sentimental things I miss. I miss recording songs off the radio (or the radio playing anything I actually enjoyed), I miss recording television shows onto VHS (or there being anything tolerable on television), I miss a lot of things.

However, the internet/technology should not be condemned for making people able to experience these things in a slightly different, much more convenient way. In fact, these things can very much be used to your advantage, there's a lot to gain while only losing a little bit of the trivial stuff. Digital kicks so much ass and only makes me feel closer to my past than I could without it.
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