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« on: December 01, 2011, 02:04:50 PM »

A humble request for all collectors of Smile memorabilia. Could those of you in posession of good quality _color_ pictures of the Smile sessions please PM me. I have most of the known pics in color, but there are approximately 15 or so which I only have as B&W. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Heck it may even be worth your while.

http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq306/Dstevenb/ContactSheet-001.jpg

http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq306/Dstevenb/ContactSheet-002.jpg

these are contact sheets I generated to help ID the photos I dont have in color. The one you see that seems color is actually colorized by me. Some pictures have been edited and included in CD issues and tour guides albeit in a cropped version.
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« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2011, 04:55:03 PM »

One of those dudes looks like Manson.  Shocked
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« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2011, 05:07:37 PM »

BW16? I thought the exact same thing. Shocked
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« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2011, 03:55:59 AM »

Paul Jay Robbins I think.
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« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2011, 03:57:00 AM »

That's Paul Robbins.
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« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2011, 04:03:41 AM »

A journalist? All I know is he wrote the sleeve notes for Song Cycle.
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« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2011, 07:38:02 AM »

A journalist? All I know is he wrote the sleeve notes for Song Cycle.

He is interviewed in the Inside Pop documentary, he was beaten up in the Sunset Strip "riots" in '66 around the time he was with Brian, and he wrote numerous articles for the LA Free Press among others. One of those who was brought into Brian's Smile circle for those few months then just as soon left when the others did.
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« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2011, 07:44:39 AM »

I've asked this question before, I'll ask it again (hopefully someone will respond):

About 8-9 years ago, a few portfolio sets of Smile color photos were offered for sale. I still have a few of the teasers from those sets, but I didn't buy them. A few board members *did* buy them, and reported various quality issues with the packages.

If anyone bought those sets, or has them, much like this thread is about, I'd love to find out which photos are in there. Can anyone either post or send me a private message or whatever, I'm really interested in seeing what was in those sets.

About this thread: Most of those seem to be from LLVS, but I've seen a few others like the shot of Brian and Larry Levine turn up in magazines in recent years, in color. You'd most likely need to go to the source or the holders of those collections like Getty or others to get the higher quality shots, and then pay a fee to get them. Or if someone is generous who has already done that process...
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« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2011, 10:38:00 AM »

Hi guitarfool2002, I have to admit I am to blame for your having heard people got the photos. I was in the middle of reporting the whole charges of the pics to my credit card and something possesed me to write I had received them. More than likely I was being sarcastic at the time, but I honestly dont quite recall. To the best of my knowledge no-one ever got any pictures despite excuses such as the photographic paper being out of date and the pictures looking bad.

That was a fiasco along with the First Wave CD set which I unfortunately also never saw and subsequently losing money on - precisely because of broken promise after broken promise. Now I know better.
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« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2011, 09:18:35 AM »

That's Paul Robbins.

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« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2011, 05:29:18 PM »

Pee Wee Herman was Charles Manson?!?  Beer
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« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2011, 08:01:46 PM »

Pee Wee is Paul REUBENS! Sorry guys.
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« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2011, 06:50:50 AM »

Pee Wee is Paul REUBENS! Sorry guys.

I know, but it took this thread in an interesting direction. Smiley
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« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2011, 07:55:57 AM »

Hi guitarfool2002, I have to admit I am to blame for your having heard people got the photos. I was in the middle of reporting the whole charges of the pics to my credit card and something possesed me to write I had received them. More than likely I was being sarcastic at the time, but I honestly dont quite recall. To the best of my knowledge no-one ever got any pictures despite excuses such as the photographic paper being out of date and the pictures looking bad.

That was a fiasco along with the First Wave CD set which I unfortunately also never saw and subsequently losing money on - precisely because of broken promise after broken promise. Now I know better.

Thanks for the update, I appreciate the info! That set of photos has been troubling me for years, and I've been wondering exactly what ever happened. I was *this close* to going further in debt than I already was at that time to place an order, then the warning signs started to appear and I couldn't afford it anyway.

Fiasco is a great word for it - the promo materials looked amazing, just what I'd want to buy and display as a fan of classic studio stuff, yet it just didn't happen.

Does someone "own" that set of photo negatives in 2011 to the point where another set could at least be proposed for publication? Myself and many others would love to see them, I'd hate to think a bad experience 8 years ago or whatever could derail a future release of the photos.
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« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2011, 10:21:55 AM »

Hi guitarfool2002, I have to admit I am to blame for your having heard people got the photos. I was in the middle of reporting the whole charges of the pics to my credit card and something possesed me to write I had received them. More than likely I was being sarcastic at the time, but I honestly dont quite recall. To the best of my knowledge no-one ever got any pictures despite excuses such as the photographic paper being out of date and the pictures looking bad.

That was a fiasco along with the First Wave CD set which I unfortunately also never saw and subsequently losing money on - precisely because of broken promise after broken promise. Now I know better.

Thanks for the update, I appreciate the info! That set of photos has been troubling me for years, and I've been wondering exactly what ever happened. I was *this close* to going further in debt than I already was at that time to place an order, then the warning signs started to appear and I couldn't afford it anyway.

Fiasco is a great word for it - the promo materials looked amazing, just what I'd want to buy and display as a fan of classic studio stuff, yet it just didn't happen.

Does someone "own" that set of photo negatives in 2011 to the point where another set could at least be proposed for publication? Myself and many others would love to see them, I'd hate to think a bad experience 8 years ago or whatever could derail a future release of the photos.

I believe the Dailey negatives are currently held by someone whose name we all know here: I don't think there's any plan for prints in the immediate future, but given the imminent anniversary, who knows...
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« Reply #15 on: December 06, 2011, 12:06:08 PM »

Hi guitarfool2002, I have to admit I am to blame for your having heard people got the photos. I was in the middle of reporting the whole charges of the pics to my credit card and something possesed me to write I had received them. More than likely I was being sarcastic at the time, but I honestly dont quite recall. To the best of my knowledge no-one ever got any pictures despite excuses such as the photographic paper being out of date and the pictures looking bad.

That was a fiasco along with the First Wave CD set which I unfortunately also never saw and subsequently losing money on - precisely because of broken promise after broken promise. Now I know better.

Thanks for the update, I appreciate the info! That set of photos has been troubling me for years, and I've been wondering exactly what ever happened. I was *this close* to going further in debt than I already was at that time to place an order, then the warning signs started to appear and I couldn't afford it anyway.

Fiasco is a great word for it - the promo materials looked amazing, just what I'd want to buy and display as a fan of classic studio stuff, yet it just didn't happen.

Does someone "own" that set of photo negatives in 2011 to the point where another set could at least be proposed for publication? Myself and many others would love to see them, I'd hate to think a bad experience 8 years ago or whatever could derail a future release of the photos.

I believe the Dailey negatives are currently held by someone whose name we all know here: I don't think there's any plan for prints in the immediate future, but given the imminent anniversary, who knows...

It would be an awesome compliment to everything going on this year and next, and if a direct appeal can be made to at least consider planning a respectful, comprehensive release of those session photos I'd like to make that appeal personally starting now, for what it's worth. I realize the legal and other issues are more complex than just saying "let's release these photos", but I think it would be a nice thing to finally see in good quality.
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