"I Was Made to Love Her" on Wild Honey and Carol Kaye's claims
debonbon:
I remember when she would post on the Cabin Essence board (if memory serves me correct), every post of hers would include a huge list of sessions that she played on as part of her argument. Never understood why she would post it over and over again. She was quite rude to a few posters there and left when some of us called her on it.
Andrew G. Doe:
OK, one last time, the cause of my personal beef with Kaye: on the Bloo, back in 2000, someone asked her what Ray Pohlman played an the "GOK" session, and she flatly stated she wasn't there. Which surprised the hell out of several posters as...
1. He's on the AFM contract...
2. Brian refers to him by name on the tapes.
I politely pointed this out, and she threw a fit, said she was there and we weren't, accused me of stealing AFM sheets and wailed that she'd get her pal Russ Wapensky who was writing a book about post-war LA sessions to check his files and prove her right. I pointed out, still politely (yeah, I've changed) that as he would be reading the exact same contract as I was (and quoted the reference #), that would be exceedingly unlikely, whereupon she flounced off to her own board (after sending me some increasingly unpleasant emails - she really typed "hahaha" FFS) and posted this, knowing that as I was barred from her forum, I couldn't reply (comments in italics are mine):
“This purported self-appointed "expert" is actually a real buddy-friend of someone (used car dealer-writer) that Brian Wilson recently sued for stealing/purloining masters [Brad Elliott, who was not a 'close buddy-friend', whatever that is]....this current phony posting on one board or more is posing as an "expert" on the Beach Boys' stuff who lives in England and is a bully to a lot of fans, setting himself up as some sort of "god" to history.... another one of those. Haha, never ceases to amaze me about these types of guys living on their lies and subterfuge of posing as a guru of information that is totally false but is obsessed to pretend to be a vip....this is a bachelor baby-boomer who was in knee-pants when we were recording - lives with his elderly mother who takes care of him etc [low, really low].....I think some are getting wise to this poor guy tho', how badly he needs help.....we've got some like that over here in the USA too, the Internet helps them set up with their pure lies so they can "enchant" the masses for awhile...and it's not good for people like Brian to have these types mislead people either....They are really self-delusional guys who eventually get laughed at -- hard to believe that people actually do fall for their lies tho' for awhile, but that's because not much is known about our studio work...... more books are on the way to the printer soon. And there's a lot of films in the can wending their way on the air....Yes, he just can't stand to be "corrected" -- yet (and most are finding this out too) he makes outlandish claims which are all lies all the time....just a really bad guy imo. And yes he does have a website....this kind of person is harming the fan-club of Brian Wilson's...is the buddy of a person who Brian sued, and little by little he's being found out but does tend to bully whomever on BW and BB sites. Believe me, join the crowd of people who he attacks, I guess the truth is very threatening to him...like another fellow I know (hmmm.....probably more of them out there on the internet too). So easy to fool people on the internet which takes time to ferret out if it's lies or truth...I think he's really on his way out now tho'. Sad case.[Eleven years later, still here]”
Yeah, a nice, charming old lady... unless you point out what she says isn't correct. You just don't do that, because Kaye is ALWAYS 100% right, even when she's claiming credit for playing on a song recorded in a town she admits she's never visited. I could add something to what Adam said about how the Crew regard her... but you can work that out easily enough.
But remember, my 'phony' trade is 'pure lies' and 'outlandish claims'. But at least I don't steal the credit of someone who can no longer defend themselves. ;D
monicker:
Sounds like you arguing with yourself.
Andrew G. Doe:
Oh, doctor, my sides, they ache so much - such wit, such humor ! :-D
Aegir:
If anyone has the time to sit through all of these Carol Kaye videos: http://snapshotsfoundation.com/video/interviews
How many incorrect claims are there?
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