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« on: September 07, 2011, 10:41:43 AM »

I have been hooked on live recordings of the band with Brian on bass or just general live recordings. It would be sweet next year or in the future as another anniversary gift, the group releases the 1964 Sacramento tapes or Michigan 1966 with possible bonus tracks (chicago 1965) or even a live box of existing live stuff in the vaults (what'd I say) or 1970s material.
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« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2011, 11:07:28 AM »

I have been hooked on live recordings of the band with Brian on bass or just general live recordings. It would be sweet next year or in the future as another anniversary gift, the group releases the 1964 Sacramento tapes or Michigan 1966 with possible bonus tracks (chicago 1965) or even a live box of existing live stuff in the vaults (what'd I say) or 1970s material.



I'd be all for it. But Michigan '66 doesn't feature Brian on bass (maybe one track - Johnny b. good)
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« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2011, 01:03:22 PM »

I have been hooked on live recordings of the band with Brian on bass or just general live recordings. It would be sweet next year or in the future as another anniversary gift, the group releases the 1964 Sacramento tapes or Michigan 1966 with possible bonus tracks (chicago 1965) or even a live box of existing live stuff in the vaults (what'd I say) or 1970s material.



I'd be all for it. But Michigan '66 doesn't feature Brian on bass (maybe one track - Johnny b. good)
I wish he was because the live shows went down in quality for a while when he retired from the road. The 1964 shows rock me out of my seat when I listen to them, Brian sounds like he had fun performing as well when he overcame his stage fright.
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« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2011, 03:10:39 PM »

I have been hooked on live recordings of the band with Brian on bass or just general live recordings. It would be sweet next year or in the future as another anniversary gift, the group releases the 1964 Sacramento tapes or Michigan 1966 with possible bonus tracks (chicago 1965) or even a live box of existing live stuff in the vaults (what'd I say) or 1970s material.



I'd be all for it. But Michigan '66 doesn't feature Brian on bass (maybe one track - Johnny b. good)
I wish he was because the live shows went down in quality for a while when he retired from the road. The 1964 shows rock me out of my seat when I listen to them, Brian sounds like he had fun performing as well when he overcame his stage fright.


I agree totally. I mentioned this quite a bit. As long as they were playing with Brian, they really rocked the sh!t out of the songs. Even the slow ones. But when he quit, it all went down. Even Dennis. The best example is "I get around". Compare a '64 version with a version from '66 or '67. You can be sure that the latter one sucks.  They started to sound better in '68.
I don't know if it was Brian but obviously something went missing when he left the touring group. It would be great if we had some Glenn Campbell live recordings with the group to see how it sounded then, because he certainly was a much better bassist then Bruce.
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To sum it up, they blew it, they blew it consistently, they continue to blow it, it is tragic and this pathological problem caused The Beach Boys' greatest music to be so underrated by the general public.

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« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2011, 03:26:08 PM »

I have been hooked on live recordings of the band with Brian on bass or just general live recordings. It would be sweet next year or in the future as another anniversary gift, the group releases the 1964 Sacramento tapes or Michigan 1966 with possible bonus tracks (chicago 1965) or even a live box of existing live stuff in the vaults (what'd I say) or 1970s material.



I'd be all for it. But Michigan '66 doesn't feature Brian on bass (maybe one track - Johnny b. good)
I wish he was because the live shows went down in quality for a while when he retired from the road. The 1964 shows rock me out of my seat when I listen to them, Brian sounds like he had fun performing as well when he overcame his stage fright.


I agree totally. I mentioned this quite a bit. As long as they were playing with Brian, they really rocked the sh!t out of the songs. Even the slow ones. But when he quit, it all went down. Even Dennis. The best example is "I get around". Compare a '64 version with a version from '66 or '67. You can be sure that the latter one sucks.  They started to sound better in '68.
I don't know if it was Brian but obviously something went missing when he left the touring group. It would be great if we had some Glenn Campbell live recordings with the group to see how it sounded then, because he certainly was a much better bassist then Bruce.
I remember an old video interview where glen said his voice got stronger doing Brian's high part and sang a little like he did when he toured with them. He sounded awesome and I am trying to find that video again.
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« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2011, 03:35:50 PM »

They were better with Brian until 1976 but frankly I do enjoy most every pre fall 1975 show I ever heard.
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« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2011, 03:38:55 PM »

Glen doing his Beach Boys high part.
http://www.wreckingcrewfilm.com/premiumglencampbell/index.html
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« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2011, 03:41:40 PM »

I have been hooked on live recordings of the band with Brian on bass or just general live recordings. It would be sweet next year or in the future as another anniversary gift, the group releases the 1964 Sacramento tapes or Michigan 1966 with possible bonus tracks (chicago 1965) or even a live box of existing live stuff in the vaults (what'd I say) or 1970s material.



I'd be all for it. But Michigan '66 doesn't feature Brian on bass (maybe one track - Johnny b. good)
I wish he was because the live shows went down in quality for a while when he retired from the road. The 1964 shows rock me out of my seat when I listen to them, Brian sounds like he had fun performing as well when he overcame his stage fright.


I agree totally. I mentioned this quite a bit. As long as they were playing with Brian, they really rocked the sh!t out of the songs. Even the slow ones. But when he quit, it all went down. Even Dennis. The best example is "I get around". Compare a '64 version with a version from '66 or '67. You can be sure that the latter one sucks.  They started to sound better in '68.
I don't know if it was Brian but obviously something went missing when he left the touring group. It would be great if we had some Glenn Campbell live recordings with the group to see how it sounded then, because he certainly was a much better bassist then Bruce.
Ironically it was Brian that made the difference, but maybe not how you are thinking... because when he was rehearsing them (which he did) he began asking the group to lay back instrumentally in '66 to put more emphasis on the subtle singing. Therefore you get minimal drums, and barely there guitar starting around Pet Sounds. When Brian rehearsed the band for the '67 hawaii gigs, again he was lobbying for them to be very minimal and quiet-ish...and not bash out the songs like they did in '64. By mid '68 it was Carl who was rehearsing the band, and from there the rock and roll returned. I agree Brian was a great bass player on stage, but the group didn't stop rocking because he left...they stopped at his request.
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« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2011, 03:45:16 PM »

Thing is...on the SOT 1964 stuff, it's clearly Carl who's leading the rehearsals -- even with Brian present...
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« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2011, 05:56:35 PM »

Thing is...on the SOT 1964 stuff, it's clearly Carl who's leading the rehearsals -- even with Brian present...
Right, and in '66/67, when Brian was sporadically leading rehearsals, he was suggesting that the drums be played more minimally and softer and that the guitars be turned down so the vocals could stand out more.
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« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2011, 09:53:00 PM »

Thing is...on the SOT 1964 stuff, it's clearly Carl who's leading the rehearsals -- even with Brian present...
Right, and in '66/67, when Brian was sporadically leading rehearsals, he was suggesting that the drums be played more minimally and softer and that the guitars be turned down so the vocals could stand out more.

Brian just was no rocker at heart. He always was a doo-wopper!  Smiley

I'd like the 64 live stuff released too. The 1964 live arrangement of I Get Around is IMHO better than the studio version.
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