The Jon Stebbins Thread
Cam Mott:
Thier common problem behavior seems to "addition", don't hear about them being physically/emotionally abusive to their loved ones so much [intentionally anyway]. Or is that wrong? Could they have actually been modeling another parent's behavior much more than the usual suspect's?
Charles LePage @ ComicList:
I found this statement from David Marks on Jon's upcoming book:
There’s a book to be written about your career and your role in the Beach Boys: Can you tell a bit more or is it a secret? Will there be “secrets” cleared or scandals opened?
I don’t know if they’ll be scandals, but there will be newly revealed information for sure and some of that information will disprove some things that have become assumed as fact. I found a lot of papers and materials that my mom saved, letters from lawyers, tour journals stuff like that so there’s proof to what will be written. Jon’s been very careful to only put in information that he has evidence to support him. Otherwise, he makes it clear that it’s opinion or “believed” to be true. There will also be some pictures of the early Beach Boys, which have never been seen before. I’ll leave the details for the book, but it will be something every fan that wants to know the truth about the birth of the Beach Boys should read.
http://www.brianwilson-fans.com/content/view/156/1/
Please go there and read the entire interview, it's good stuff.
Jon Stebbins:
These are all good insights...C-Man, Mark, Cam...I'd say Murry was a huge factor in why the Wilson boys were/are so emotionally raw...or vulnerable. Who knows what his parenting techniques were at the most crucial stage...age two to four. So much of one's ability to process the world is set at that point. I imagine he did the best he could. Murry was full of heart, and it shows in all the boys...but he was extremely controlling, he could be cruel, and then overly apologetic...he spoiled them in many ways. The Dave Marks book deals with the subject of Murry quite a bit...from the late '50's until the mid '60's. I feel I got a clearer picture of Murry , both good ands bad, from talking to people who really knew him like David, Jo Ann Marks, Dave's cousin Toni, Fred Vail, Eddy Medora and others. One thing is for sure...Murry left a lasting impression on all of them. The descriptions run from "horrible" to "brilliant". But in Dave's story you get a clear sense of both the power and weaknesses of Murry Wilson.
Karen Lamm once told me that Dennis' biggest problem was the fact he never felt "accepted" by Murry. I think Brian is still seeking Murry's approval on some level too.
Cam Mott:
By "addition" I of course meant "addiction"; damn fingers. And by that I mean I wonder if Audrey doesn't get a pass for her role, maybe more influential role, in the Wilson son's upbringing. If stories of her alcohol addiction are true, that is. Murry's behavior is very memorable and upfront from stories told while Audrey's may have been more stealthy [undercover of happy drunk] but inflicting more behavioral damage to the sons. Anyway the sons seem to be more addictive than abusive but then there is the complications of how much is learned and how much is disease too. Aw, forget it.
Mitchell:
There's also the conscious effort to NOT be what their dad was. I could see that being a factor.
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