Look/ B's 9th symphony

[Mahalo]

I gave Beethove's entire 9th symphony a few good listens over the past week and I noticed that in the final famous movement that everything drops out out and marching music begins that sounds very similar to the marching music of Look; as far as instrumentation goes, and melodicaly it is not that far off either. Wasn't sure if this deserved it's own thread but the sound is very much of a "pop symphony" at that part...Do we know to what extent that the famous composers of history had affected Brian's approach to writing? I know he's mentioned Bach before, but anyone else?

[Chris Brown]

One of the articles in LLVS has Carl telling a story about Brian listening to some classical work (I don't recall the work or the composer), looking up and saying "I just realized I'm a musical midget." 

Being as into music as he was/is, I'm sure Brian has heard him share of classical music, so what you're saying could indeed be true.

[rab2591]

Out of all of Brian's work, 'Look' is the only one that really reminds me of classical work.

I posted this link here on smileysmile before, but here it is again: Someone did a piano cover of the Life Suite:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLyX3UnnWVk

At around 2:10 you can really get a feel for classical work. I can't really compare it to anything specific, but it just sounds so classical. It is one of my favorite moments out of all of Brian's music.

[busy doin nothin]

Beethoven is the only person in history who could possibly make Brian Wilson feel like a "musical midget."

[Mahalo]

...that's up for debate! 

Does anyone know what part of B's 9th I'm talking about? Last movement....

[pixletwin]

Yes you are referring to the section that is the Turkish march section... I can sort of see where you are coming from on this.

[rab2591]

...that's up for debate! 

Does anyone know what part of B's 9th I'm talking about? Last movement....

Yeah, I there is an obscure 'Look' vibe in that last section....not a definite similarity, but still a vibe.

And I just realized how similar 'Look' and 'Holidays' are (with that marching beat)....interesting what one can still find after hundreds of listens.

I remember mentioning on another thread that it sounded like 'Look' had the potential to be a great pop song, and then someone commented on how another popular 60s era song had a similar marching beat - I totally forgot what the song was - anyone know?

[pixletwin]

Good Vibrations maybe? 

[rab2591]

Good Vibrations maybe? 

haha no. I could have sworn it was something like 'incense and peppermint' but that sounds nothing like 'Look'...i'll search for the thread later tonight and see if I can find the name of the song.

[rogerlancelot]

Good Vibrations maybe? 

haha no. I could have sworn it was something like 'incense and peppermint' but that sounds nothing like 'Look'...i'll search for the thread later tonight and see if I can find the name of the song.

Actually, there is "They're Coming to Take Me Away, Ha-Haaa!" by Napoleon XIV from 1966. More info here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/They%27re_coming_to_take_me_away

[roll plymouth rock]

There's a part of Gershwin's Rhapsody In Blue that definitely is given a nod in H&V