The Smile Sessions - A Game of Speculation

[homeontherange]

Write-in item(s):
Piano demo for Cabin Essence
Piano demo for Wonderful
Piano demo for Wind Chimes

What do you base this speculation on? I'm getting too excited now

[Mikie]

Do any of you guys think the version of Vegetables with the Cornucopia lyrics will be released?  Has this been booted - cause I don't remember hearing it recently. Dumb question, I know, but I'm allowed one, right?

[Jason Penick]

Which of the following “new” material will be included on The Smile Sessions?

1.   Acetate/mix from May 11 session for Heroes and Villains
NO
2.   Previously unheard sections from Good Vibrations
YES
3.   Wind Chimes mix referred to by Michael Vosse
YES
4.   Vocals for Look/I Ran (Oct 13)
NO
5.   Wonderful with lead vocal and yodeling bvs
YES
6.   Cabin Essence previously unheard instrumental section
NO
7.   Cabin Essence “reconnected telephone” vocals
NO
8.   Child Is Father Of The Man previously unheard vocals (leads and/or bvs)
YES
9.   Child Is Father Of The Man previously unknown lyrics (could be audio, could be just documented lyrics)
NO
10.   I’m In Great Shape vocals
NO (unless you mean the Humble Harv demo)
11.   Significant clues/documentation into the overall structure of I’m In Great Shape
YES
12.   Vintage lead vocal for Do You Like Worms
NO
13.   An altogether different recording under the title Do You Like Worms
NO
14.   Any previously unheard spoken recordings/skits
YES
15.   Vintage lead vocal for Barnyard
YES
16.   Acetate/mix from fall 1966 version of Heroes and Villains
NO
17.   Previously unheard instrumental section from Surf’s Up
NO
18.   The Nov 29 recording “Jazz”
NO
19.   Previously unheard piece pertaining to the Elements
NO
20.   Significant new clues/documentation into what comprised the air element (for bonus point, speculate on specifics of what that element turns out to be)
NO (we'll never find out what it was)
21.   Significant new clues/documentation into what comprised the earth element (for bonus point, speculate on specifics of what that element turns out to be)
NO (it turns out to be Vega-Tables)
22.   Significant new clues/documentation into what comprised the water element (for bonus point, speculate on specifics of what that element turns out to be)
NO (it turns out to be Water Chant)
23.   Vocal parts for Old Master Painter and/or You Are My Sunshine
YES (but it will be the same Dennis vocal for "Sunshine" that we've already heard)
24.   Excerpts from “Ball and Mitt” (Dec 15)
YES
25.   Previously unheard section(s) from Heroes and Villains (for bonus points, speculate on specific sections)
YES (just a small fragment or two - nothing revelatory)
26.   Acetate/mix from 1967 version of Heroes and Villains
NO (unless we're talking the Cantina version we already know)
27.   Dennis Wilson’s “I Don’t Know”
YES
28.   Jasper Dailey recording(s)
YES
29.   Previously unheard material from Carl’s “Tones”
NO
30.   Previously unheard material from the April Vega-Tables sessions
YES
Write-in item(s):
I think we may see a more complete version of the April '67 "Wonderful"
I also think we will hear some of Brian's home recording monologues a la the "Smog Rap"

[Catbirdman]

Write-in item(s):
Piano demo for Cabin Essence
Piano demo for Wonderful
Piano demo for Wind Chimes

What do you base this speculation on? I'm getting too excited now

Absolutely nothing, just utter speculation. Someone upthread mentioned the possibility of piano demos and I was intrigued. Sounds like the kind of thing that would naturally occur and go unlogged, and with Alan Boyd auditioning each and every tape, I wouldn't be surprised if he stumbles across something like this.

[Bill Barnyard]

Whether Smile era tracks such as Carl's 'Tones' or Dennis's 'I Don't Know' will be included is doubtful imho.

Alan Boyd did confirm on this board (about 2 years ago) that a tracking session tape for the latter does exist and that he has heard it. No description though.

[Catbirdman]

Do any of you guys think the version of Vegetables with the Cornucopia lyrics will be released?  Has this been booted - cause I don't remember hearing it recently. Dumb question, I know, but I'm allowed one, right?

I'm expecting that to be included on the box set, yes, but it wouldn't be eligible for this game, unless it's a version that has never circulated before.

Maybe this is a good time to clarify a bit what exactly constitutes "new" in my mind. In order for a piece to be "new," it must never have been heard by the larger collectors' circuit. So if a piece has previously been heard either on an official release, a physical bootleg, or a widely-circulated download, it isn't by definition "new" to the collector.

[bgas]

Do any of you guys think the version of Vegetables with the Cornucopia lyrics will be released?  Has this been booted - cause I don't remember hearing it recently. Dumb question, I know, but I'm allowed one, right?

I'm expecting that to be included on the box set, yes, but it wouldn't be eligible for this game, unless it's a version that has never circulated before.

Maybe this is a good time to clarify a bit what exactly constitutes "new" in my mind. In order for a piece to be "new," it must never have been heard by the larger collectors' circuit. So if a piece has previously been heard either on an official release, a physical bootleg, or a widely-circulated download, it isn't by definition "new" to the collector.

So a track I have on acetate, that only myself and one or two others that can be trusted never to talk about it have heard, would count as new, right?

[Catbirdman]

So a track I have on acetate, that only myself and one or two others that can be trusted never to talk about it have heard, would count as new, right?

Yes, bgas. You crack me up.