SMiLE Sessions box set!

[donald]

What are the odds that, when all is said and done, and the deluxe box is on the shelves, that someone wil come up with pieces of SMiLE that were not included in the set?

There is a lotof stuff floating around out there, and I suspect that even Capitol doesn't have it all.  I know that some fans contributed to the other Box sets. 

Will that mean that we are STILL waiting for the COMPLETE SMiLE to be released?

Will the saga continue?   

[onkster]

Well, maybe Smile Sessions should be a Blu-Ray like Neil's Archives set...which can get updated via BD Live when new stuff gets found...

[Dove Nested Towers]

Well, maybe Smile Sessions should be a Blu-Ray like Neil's Archives set...which can get updated via BD Live when new stuff gets found...

That is an astute observation. Some modular technological format will probably be the final form for this material to be commercially available in. 2062, here we come (if we make it past 2012)!

[bgas]

I'm going to make certain that the bomb shelter I inherited from the 1950's owners of my house, is well stocked with multiple copies of the Deluxe Smile Sessions set, so I don't have to worry about wearing one out until I'm rescued by the next owners of this planet.   

[SurfRiderHawaii]

More from Bruce on the BBB Board

"Jasper:
I totally understand everyone's excitement about the possibility of 'officially' hearing Brian's original SMILE recordings but I suspect that Brian 'back in the day' never knew how it would turn out because he never finished recording and assembling his incredible recordings.
What we have all heard so far is truly a musical marvel and his fairly recent solo album SMILE re-recording was certainly of great interest to a lot true fans all over the world. FYI: My favorite solo SMILE 'recording' of Brian's is the Bristol, England, DVD bootleg!
It will be fascinating to see what Alan Boyd & Mark Linett uncover from a few acetates to full fidelity original SMILE tapes. I do not personally know Mark but I do know Alan and I expect the best possible SMILE release from their efforts as compilation producers (Brian Wilson is of course the overall original SMILE producer though that album was never finished or released).
Jasper, you should view me only as a devoted Brian Wilson & Beach Boys music fan that happens to be in the band and please realize that I have nothing to do with the musical composing or production of SMILE. I'm just waiting to see how it all turns out!

Bruce Johnston
London
March 15, 2011"

"J Hammond:
I am only an applauding bystander at this point.

Bruce Johnston
London
March 15, 2011 "

[desmondo]

What are the odds that, when all is said and done, and the deluxe box is on the shelves, that someone wil come up with pieces of SMiLE that were not included in the set?

There is a lotof stuff floating around out there, and I suspect that even Capitol doesn't have it all.  I know that some fans contributed to the other Box sets. 

Will that mean that we are STILL waiting for the COMPLETE SMiLE to be released?

Will the saga continue?   

There never will be a complete SMiLE as it wasn't all recorded and no doubt the saga will continue - on this and similar boards

[MBE]

Shoot I am thrilled there will be vinyl. BTW the Dylan box did come on vinyl and a vinyl boot was made of the left over songs from the deluxe edition. Lot's of folks like records.

[Rocker]

Jasper, you should view me only as a devoted Brian Wilson & Beach Boys music fan that happens to be in the band and please realize that I have nothing to do with the musical composing or production of SMILE. I'm just waiting to see how it all turns out!

After a while it gets kinda boring..... 

[juggler]

It will be fascinating to see what Alan Boyd & Mark Linett uncover from a few acetates to full fidelity original SMILE tapes.

Okay, both Al and Bruce have now mentioned acetates in the context of this project, so it's a pretty safe bet that Messrs. Boyd and Linett have had (or will have) access to their acetates.

What about Durrie Parks?  For years, there's been a widespread belief that she has a collection of Smile acetates (presumably work-in-progress mixes acquired by her ex-husband back in the day).  Has anyone heard if Durrie has made her collection available for this project?   It's now or never on this stuff.

[willy]

That's my only big question. Let's hope.......

[Andrew G. Doe]

It will be fascinating to see what Alan Boyd & Mark Linett uncover from a few acetates to full fidelity original SMILE tapes.

Okay, both Al and Bruce have now mentioned acetates in the context of this project, so it's a pretty safe bet that Messrs. Boyd and Linett have had (or will have) access to their acetates.

What about Durrie Parks?  For years, there's been a widespread belief that she has a collection of Smile acetates (presumably work-in-progress mixes acquired by her ex-husband back in the day).  Has anyone heard if Durrie has made her collection available for this project?   It's now or never on this stuff.

I'm under the impression she's not been approached.

[drbeachboy]

Andrew, do you know if Misters Jardine & Johnston shared their acetates with Misters Linett & Boyd?

[Bedroom Tapes]

While getting SMiLE officially released and all is fantastic, it makes me wonder will we see some other archival (Wouldn't It Be Nice To Live Again, California Feeling '74, Lucy Jones, Where Is She, etc., etc.) releases in the near future?

[bgas]

It will be fascinating to see what Alan Boyd & Mark Linett uncover from a few acetates to full fidelity original SMILE tapes.

Okay, both Al and Bruce have now mentioned acetates in the context of this project, so it's a pretty safe bet that Messrs. Boyd and Linett have had (or will have) access to their acetates.

What about Durrie Parks?  For years, there's been a widespread belief that she has a collection of Smile acetates (presumably work-in-progress mixes acquired by her ex-husband back in the day).  Has anyone heard if Durrie has made her collection available for this project?   It's now or never on this stuff.

I'm under the impression she's not been approached.

Does your impression understand the reasoning behiind that?

 

While getting SMiLE officially released and all is fantastic, it makes me wonder will we see some other archival (Wouldn't It Be Nice To Live Again, California Feeling '74, Lucy Jones, Where Is She, etc., etc.) releases in the near future?

They're saving all other archival releases for the 60th Anniversary   

[Andrew G. Doe]

It will be fascinating to see what Alan Boyd & Mark Linett uncover from a few acetates to full fidelity original SMILE tapes.

Okay, both Al and Bruce have now mentioned acetates in the context of this project, so it's a pretty safe bet that Messrs. Boyd and Linett have had (or will have) access to their acetates.

What about Durrie Parks?  For years, there's been a widespread belief that she has a collection of Smile acetates (presumably work-in-progress mixes acquired by her ex-husband back in the day).  Has anyone heard if Durrie has made her collection available for this project?   It's now or never on this stuff.

I'm under the impression she's not been approached.

Does your impression understand the reasoning behiind that?

Yes.

[Jay]

It will be fascinating to see what Alan Boyd & Mark Linett uncover from a few acetates to full fidelity original SMILE tapes.

Okay, both Al and Bruce have now mentioned acetates in the context of this project, so it's a pretty safe bet that Messrs. Boyd and Linett have had (or will have) access to their acetates.

What about Durrie Parks?  For years, there's been a widespread belief that she has a collection of Smile acetates (presumably work-in-progress mixes acquired by her ex-husband back in the day).  Has anyone heard if Durrie has made her collection available for this project?   It's now or never on this stuff.

I'm under the impression she's not been approached.

Does your impression understand the reasoning behiind that?

Yes.

Would your impression like to divulge any more information?  

[Dunderhead]

I hope that when this is all said and done we get information regarding what went into this project.
I'll be really disappointed if they don't take the time to track down random acetates. Alan Boyd made a post a while back where he bemoans the state of the SMiLE tapes, and notes how many of them are missing, and hows it's a certainty that these tapes are now in the hands of collectors, along with acetates that Brian made. It was kind of a depressing read really, but considering that everyone seemingly agrees that these items exist I would hope that a concerted effort is made on the part of Capital to ensure that anything that can be collected is.

This was the impression I got from Mark's interview, and it just seems stupid not to. I don't know what's going on with the Parks acetates, I've heard them rumored about since the first time I read anything about SMiLE. Is she just not interested in selling them? Is she too lazy to look for them? Did she forget what she did with them? Did they not exist in the first place? Is she annoyed with people making inquires? Whatever it is someone needs to just pick up the phone and ask her. Really Capital should put out a bounty on SMiLE material in hopes a few things might get returned. If it was up to me I'd try and track down every single last person who ever had access to the tapes.

A lot of stuff is missing, but there's always the possibility that the second movement of Surf's Up is just sitting in someone's attic. If that was the case it would be really tragic if the compilers of this project didn't do their due diligence and follow up on any and every lead.

[Andrew G. Doe]

I don't know what's going on with the Parks acetates, I've heard them rumored about since the first time I read anything about SMiLE. Is she just not interested in selling them? Is she too lazy to look for them? Did she forget what she did with them? Did they not exist in the first place? Is she annoyed with people making inquires? Whatever it is someone needs to just pick up the phone and ask her.

When I had the extreme pleasure of spending an evening chez Parks back in March 1985, pretty much the first thing he said to me (after the usual greetings) was along the lines of "you're going to ask me about Smile, well I don't have any of that stuff any more, my first wife got it in the divorce", after which we had just a splendid evening.

Durrie has confirmed she has acetates back in the late 90s, I think, maybe early 2000s, but since then nothing. As I said, my impression is that as of now, Capitol hasn't approached her... which isn't to say that other parties haven't on an unofficial basis. I don't know. I did ask Bruce about his acetates a long time ago, and he deflected the question. Alan we know has them.

[SurfRiderHawaii]

I don't know what's going on with the Parks acetates, I've heard them rumored about since the first time I read anything about SMiLE. Is she just not interested in selling them? Is she too lazy to look for them? Did she forget what she did with them? Did they not exist in the first place? Is she annoyed with people making inquires? Whatever it is someone needs to just pick up the phone and ask her.

When I had the extreme pleasure of spending an evening chez Parks back in March 1985, pretty much the first thing he said to me (after the usual greetings) was along the lines of "you're going to ask me about Smile, well I don't have any of that stuff any more, my first wife got it in the divorce", after which we had just a splendid evening.

Durrie has confirmed she has acetates back in the late 90s, I think, maybe early 2000s, but since then nothing. As I said, my impression is that as of now, Capitol hasn't approached her... which isn't to say that other parties haven't on an unofficial basis. I don't know. I did ask Bruce about his acetates a long time ago, and he deflected the question. Alan we know has them.

"Again, I have to ask - do you guys actually read this stuff ?  Grin"

From Bruce on the BBB Board
http://www.boards2go.com/boards/board.cgi?action=read&id=1300128127&user=bellagio

Re(2): Official SMiLE announcement from Capitol/EMI Records
Posted on March 14, 2011 at 07:42:07 PM by Bruce Johnston

I'm looking forward to having SMiLE recordings that are of the original high musical and sonic standard that they were recorded in instead of scratchy acetates from too many years ago that 'live' in my collection. The compilation producers are Mark Linett and Alan Boyd who both have a deep loyalty to the musical and historical value of 'everything Beach Boys.'
As the original creator and producer of this amazing recorded music is Brian Wilson, it gives Mark and Alan a wonderful opportunity to be involved in the restoration and packaging of a most important American pop music treasure.

Bruce Johnston
London
March 14, 2011

[The Heartical Don]

I don't know what's going on with the Parks acetates, I've heard them rumored about since the first time I read anything about SMiLE. Is she just not interested in selling them? Is she too lazy to look for them? Did she forget what she did with them? Did they not exist in the first place? Is she annoyed with people making inquires? Whatever it is someone needs to just pick up the phone and ask her.

When I had the extreme pleasure of spending an evening chez Parks back in March 1985, pretty much the first thing he said to me (after the usual greetings) was along the lines of "you're going to ask me about Smile, well I don't have any of that stuff any more, my first wife got it in the divorce", after which we had just a splendid evening.

Durrie has confirmed she has acetates back in the late 90s, I think, maybe early 2000s, but since then nothing. As I said, my impression is that as of now, Capitol hasn't approached her... which isn't to say that other parties haven't on an unofficial basis. I don't know. I did ask Bruce about his acetates a long time ago, and he deflected the question. Alan we know has them.

As much as I would love to hear everything Smile there exists, I think that Durrie is entitled to her privacy, and it is entirely up to her whether, or not, she collaborates in the present project. No need to endlessly ruminate about her 'duties' here, much less to judge her morally on the matter.

[buddhahat]

As much as I would love to hear everything Smile there exists, I think that Durrie is entitled to her privacy, and it is entirely up to her whether, or not, she collaborates in the present project. No need to endlessly ruminate about her 'duties' here, much less to judge her morally on the matter.

Wise words, Don. I'm sure she's been approached and if she has passed the acetates over, great, and if she hasn't I'm sure he has her reasons and it needs to be left at that. For all we know there's nothing new on them anyway, or they're unplayable cos the dog peed all over them.

[Dunderhead]

what's the point of keeping them? does she listen to them all the time or something? just hand them over and be done with it. I'm sure they could even be returned to her once they are done.

[Cam Mott]

We might have a different opinion if we were sitting on items that could have considerable market value as collectibles.

[bgas]

We might have a different opinion if we were sitting on items that could have considerable market value as collectibles.

Which brings up a thorny point; what if there's nothing new on them?
Then they become less valuable and lose some of their "mystique". So to get the full value( as I doubt Durrie listens to them) they have to be sold prior to hearing them

[Menace Wilson]

As much as I would love to hear everything Smile there exists, I think that Durrie is entitled to her privacy, and it is entirely up to her whether, or not, she collaborates in the present project. No need to endlessly ruminate about her 'duties' here, much less to judge her morally on the matter.

I don't quite agree.  Surely she's aware of the mythical status that Smile has attained, and would understand the significance of this box set.  Why would she assign any sense of "privacy" to the Smile recordings unless she actually appears on them?