SMiLE Sessions box set!

[Wrightfan]

What confuses me is the "may have gotten a look" part. Either they did or they didn't. Which is it? If they didn't know for sure, then why even mention it.

I'm sure they're probably just playing "coy" 

[JohnMill]

"the Record Store Day People" ?!?  Who would that be?  the guys in Capittol's warehouse that box up the records?
It's not as if there was any big promotional push by sales reps in the stores; and no posters, or other materials was made, as far as I can tell, so who are these secret people supposed to be?  

Paul and Ringo apparently showed up (Ringo under the code name of "Russia") on the date in question.  Apparently trying to get a sneak peek and poach "SMiLE" again.  Some jokers never learn.  

[juggler]

What confuses me is the "may have gotten a look" part. Either they did or they didn't. Which is it? If they didn't know for sure, then why even mention it.

In the context of some minor secret, "may have gotten a look" seems like pretty standard language for "We got a look." 

Reminds me a bit of Monty Python's old "Are you insinuating something?" sketch...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jT3_UCm1A5I

"the Record Store Day People" ?!?  Who would that be?

I think they're the people who organize the annual Record Store Day.
http://www.recordstoreday.com/CustomPage/614

[Iron Horse-Apples]

Hey, I've missed this thread.....

Acid tab anyone?

[Shady]

So much greatness in this thread 

[The Shift]

I think this ought to be the thread for this, I've lost track!

http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/story/beach-boys-smile-tapes-to-be-released_1225505


I'll save you the hassle of going there:

The original recording sessions from The Beach Boys' legendary 'lost' album Smile are to be released for the first time after spending 44 years locked in a vault.
The experimental album was abandoned by composer Brian Wilson in 1967 as he battled mental illness and his fellow bandmates' cautious attitude towards the group's musical direction.
Although snippets of the sessions have emerged on bootlegs over the years - and Wilson eventually released a newly-recorded version of Smile in 2004 - the original tapes have never been made public.
Now bosses at Capitol Records are preparing to release the unheard master tapes from the 1960s sessions for the first time, to mark the 50th anniversary of the Beach Boys later this year (11).
Wilson tells Mojo magazine, "The label just sent me the tape. I heard it and was thrilled. When I heard it for the first time off the shelf I had forgotten a lot of it. But the songs kept sticking with me."
Fellow Beach Boy Al Jardine adds, "That's my concern about it now. Is it really finished? The answer is: does it really matter? It is what it is. It's a document of the times. I heard the working tapes and thought, Well, there is some closure there."
It is not known whether the two minutes of music that remains from the notorious Fire track - which Wilson has repeatedly insisted should never be released - will be included in the two-disc CD, titled The Smile Sessions.

Love the solemn authority of that last paragraph -  this'll be the same notorious Fire track that was included in the American Band video in 1985, and in the Brian Wilson: Songwriter 1962-1969 DVD last year?  And which Brian re-recorded for the 2004 release?

(unless, of course, there's another Fire composition that A&M have excavated recently…  :O

[Andrew G. Doe]

"Although snippets of the sessions have emerged on bootlegs over the years - and Wilson eventually released a newly-recorded version of Smile in 2004 - the original tapes have never been made public."

Someone's never heard of the 1993 box set, have they ? 

[The Shift]

My fave is the French issue of Smiley, which collected a good few 2-fer & GV box set SMiLE snippets together too.

Much of our mythical "lost" album has been out there for a while – like, a decade or two – really.

[SMiLE Brian]

I think this ought to be the thread for this, I've lost track!

http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/story/beach-boys-smile-tapes-to-be-released_1225505


I'll save you the hassle of going there:

The original recording sessions from The Beach Boys' legendary 'lost' album Smile are to be released for the first time after spending 44 years locked in a vault.
The experimental album was abandoned by composer Brian Wilson in 1967 as he battled mental illness and his fellow bandmates' cautious attitude towards the group's musical direction.
Although snippets of the sessions have emerged on bootlegs over the years - and Wilson eventually released a newly-recorded version of Smile in 2004 - the original tapes have never been made public.
Now bosses at Capitol Records are preparing to release the unheard master tapes from the 1960s sessions for the first time, to mark the 50th anniversary of the Beach Boys later this year (11).
Wilson tells Mojo magazine, "The label just sent me the tape. I heard it and was thrilled. When I heard it for the first time off the shelf I had forgotten a lot of it. But the songs kept sticking with me."
Fellow Beach Boy Al Jardine adds, "That's my concern about it now. Is it really finished? The answer is: does it really matter? It is what it is. It's a document of the times. I heard the working tapes and thought, Well, there is some closure there."
It is not known whether the two minutes of music that remains from the notorious Fire track - which Wilson has repeatedly insisted should never be released - will be included in the two-disc CD, titled The Smile Sessions.

Love the solemn authority of that last paragraph -  this'll be the same notorious Fire track that was included in the American Band video in 1985, and in the Brian Wilson: Songwriter 1962-1969 DVD last year?  And which Brian re-recorded for the 2004 release?

(unless, of course, there's another Fire composition that A&M have excavated recently…  :O

I guess they have to sell the smile myth to audiences that that don't even remotely know the story or the Beach Boys in general...

[18thofMay]

Generate the hype!

[Roger Ryan]

It's a lot better sell to pretend none of this stuff has been heard before...as opposed to "did you hear those yodels under the third verse? No? Well, that's new! No, no, but this one's in mono; Mike's vocal on the coda is LOUDER I tell you. This is what we've been waiting 40 years for!" 

[Andrew G. Doe]

It's a lot better sell to pretend none of this stuff has been heard before...as opposed to "did you hear those yodels under the third verse? No? Well, that's new! No, no, but this one's in mono; Mike's vocal on the coda is LOUDER I tell you. This is what we've been waiting 40 years for!" 

Sadly, this is entirely true. It's Geek Central here, and it's only going to get worse. 

[hypehat]

*rolls up sleeves* 

[dmcguire70]

Mike now says the music was COOL. In 1967 he hated in -2011 he now thinks its worthwhile, because he's going to make some money out of it!
Smile was Brian's masterpiece and it was created out of the love of music ,not money.

[Jason]

Mike now says the music was COOL. In 1967 he hated in -2011 he now thinks its worthwhile, because he's going to make some money out of it!
Smile was Brian's masterpiece and it was created out of the love of music ,not money.

Holy Brianista reaction, Batman.

Michael has stated time and time again that his only beef was the lyrics. Just as with Hang On To Your Ego. But I'd say he warmed to Smile long before Brian did...

[dmcguire70]

Lets just agree to disagree then. Brainista or no brainista!!

[Shady]

No matter how "lovers"  spin it, it was still terribly lame of Mike to veto the smile lyrics

[dmcguire70]

I would have thought Brian pretty much warmed to smile while he was composing/recording  it! 

[dmcguire70]

Its a bit like being a kid again and waiting for Christmas! I'm counting the days

[Cam Mott]

No matter how "lovers"  spin it, it was still terribly lame of Mike to veto the smile lyrics

I think Mike is being accused of powers he didn't have. I'm pretty confidant that Mike could not veto lyrics, especially if their Producer did not agree.

[drbeachboy]

No matter how "lovers"   spin it, it was still terribly lame of Mike to veto the smile lyrics

and why is that? Place yourself in 1966 and no other songs written by any other lyricist is anything close to what Mike is reading from Van Dyke. What is a straight-laced guy to think? I say in hindsight, that Van Dyke should have thrown Mike a bone and gave him an idea of what he was trying to get across with the lyrics. That may have made all the difference.

[Shady]

No matter how "lovers"   spin it, it was still terribly lame of Mike to veto the smile lyrics

I think Mike is being accused of powers he didn't have. I'm pretty confidant that Mike could not veto lyrics, especially if their Producer did not agree.

No matter how "lovers"   spin it, it was still terribly lame of Mike to veto the smile lyrics

I think Mike is being accused of powers he didn't have. I'm pretty confidant that Mike could not veto lyrics, especially if their Producer did not agree.

I agree 100%, I don't think Mike's disapproval was anymore more than a possible annoyance to Brian. The way he's blamed in smiles downfall is complete bullmerda IMO

That said, he didn't like the lyrics and to my understanding he wasn't quiet about it

No matter how "lovers"   spin it, it was still terribly lame of Mike to veto the smile lyrics

and why is that? Place yourself in 1966 and no other songs written by any other lyricist is anything close to what Mike is reading from Van Dyke. What is a straight-laced guy to think? I say in hindsight, that Van Dyke should have thrown Mike a bone and gave him an idea of what he was trying to get across with the lyrics.

I understand what you're saying but I'll never understand why Mike has said he always loved H&V but he had a problem with other SMILE material, it makes no sense.  Why take issue with the tag on Cabin Essence but have no problem with "sunnydown snuff"

He at least liked some of Van Dyke lyrics so why no just sing them all

[drbeachboy]

Mike always said that H&V was one of Brian's last dynamic productions. I also heard Mike say that the lyrics are fun to sing, but didn't understand what they meant.

[Chris Brown]

No matter how "lovers"   spin it, it was still terribly lame of Mike to veto the smile lyrics

I think Mike is being accused of powers he didn't have. I'm pretty confidant that Mike could not veto lyrics, especially if their Producer did not agree.

No matter how "lovers"   spin it, it was still terribly lame of Mike to veto the smile lyrics

I think Mike is being accused of powers he didn't have. I'm pretty confidant that Mike could not veto lyrics, especially if their Producer did not agree.

I agree 100%, I don't think Mike's disapproval was anymore more than a possible annoyance to Brian. The way he's blamed in smiles downfall is complete bullmerda IMO

That said, he didn't like the lyrics and to my understanding he wasn't quiet about it

I agree that his role in the downfall has always been blown way out of proportion, but at the same time I think his objections, if they were as strong as everybody has told over the years, were more than just an "annoyance" to Brian. 

During that period especially, Brian desperately needed reassurance and validation.  For the first time in his career, he had begun to doubt whether or not he was on the right musical path, and I think given that state of mind, any resistance he would encounter (from Mike or anyone) was magnified in his brain and only made him more doubtful and less confident in the work he was doing.  That isn't Mike's fault, of course, but I do think that Brian was impacted by Mike's criticisms more than most other people would have been, and that probably helped to reinforce the self-doubt that he was already feeling to begin with.

[drbeachboy]

No matter how "lovers"   spin it, it was still terribly lame of Mike to veto the smile lyrics

I think Mike is being accused of powers he didn't have. I'm pretty confidant that Mike could not veto lyrics, especially if their Producer did not agree.

No matter how "lovers"   spin it, it was still terribly lame of Mike to veto the smile lyrics

I think Mike is being accused of powers he didn't have. I'm pretty confidant that Mike could not veto lyrics, especially if their Producer did not agree.

I agree 100%, I don't think Mike's disapproval was anymore more than a possible annoyance to Brian. The way he's blamed in smiles downfall is complete bullmerda IMO

That said, he didn't like the lyrics and to my understanding he wasn't quiet about it

I agree that his role in the downfall has always been blown way out of proportion, but at the same time I think his objections, if they were as strong as everybody has told over the years, were more than just an "annoyance" to Brian.  

During that period especially, Brian desperately needed reassurance and validation.  For the first time in his career, he had begun to doubt whether or not he was on the right musical path, and I think given that state of mind, any resistance he would encounter (from Mike or anyone) was magnified in his brain and only made him more doubtful and less confident in the work he was doing.  That isn't Mike's fault, of course, but I do think that Brian was impacted by Mike's criticisms more than most other people would have been, and that probably helped to reinforce the self-doubt that he was already feeling to begin with.

I'll bet at the time, Mike had no idea how his dissent to the lyrics would affect Brian.